this war one way or the other. the third thing is what you mentioned. that is president zelenskyy has said he wants to talk to president putin. and we know that president zelenskyy and president biden have had conversations, five conversations over the past ten days, during this war. and president zelenskyy has confidence that if he sits down with president putin, maybe with president biden to make it serious because president putin doesn't deal seriously with many people. but if he were sitting there with president zelenskyy, that would be -- that could be a serious discussion. it's not clear, however, that the decision maker, president putin, is ready to make any kind of deal. so, that's got to be a concern all the way along. >> there was a lot packed in there, so i want to tease it apart. the meeting with the israeli prime minister, prime minister bennet, what do you think could have been accomplished in that meeting? >> what could have been accomplished would be that the