amongst our team, amongst the intelligence community, that is spying for the americans, and who isn't getting sent home by the americans because they have a continuing intelligence value to the americans. there is a lot of stuff going on just beneath the surface that is truly fascinating. >> frank, given your experience and expertise, can you pull back the confessing give us a sense of the work that the intelligence community, the fbi, counter intelligence is doing in this moment? >> yes, i, mean we are all tuned in understandably to what's going on on the ground in ukraine, in russia, but understand that counter intelligence is going out the need the surface right here at home. there is intercepts of communications whenever possible, their sources being met, clandestinely on the streets, and back alleys with covert communications. all with the aim of trying to pass to ukraine and our allies whatever intel they have on how putin is thinking, whether next move is. it's clear to me that part of the success of the ukrainians