vladimir putin may individually amount to much, but when you see the action he's taking, the double down on selling his version of the war to the russian people and to try to suppress anybody who doesn't agree with him, does it show outside pressure is getting through? >> well, i think pressure is getting through. i've been thinking, chris, obviously, for all the right reasons we've spent a lot of time thinking about the ukrainian people and the suffering they're undergoing right now. but i'm also sald for russian people, because what's going to happen here is they're going to be cut off from the rest of the world 30 years after the fall of soviet union when they finally became at least somewhat more integrated to the rest of the globe. now a new iron curtain, in effect, is fall across their border. people who used to travel overseas won't be able to because the planes aren't flying. bheem used to have friends in the west will feel nervous about ever talking to them. people at home in russia will