potential alternative to donald trump. because again, you look at that poll. if you look at the data, and that poll, and a couple, others republican voters are also donors, mind you. this is really important, donors looking to put their money around someone else, behind someone else with less baggage. in fact, this baggage is one of the things that's turning people off of donald trump. maybe you like, and maybe like his sort of tough man persona. giving it to the media, if you will. but, at the same time, if you really want to go through four more years of constant, trauma every single day? most candidates -- most voters, and most donors are going to say absolutely not. so, i do think it's very very possible for there to be an alternative to president trump. it's so early. we have a lot of time. let's see what happens. >> alencia, does this help or hurt democrats, if they are up against maybe anti trump republicans in the races? >> well, i think we have to, as democrats, we have to run our own race. i've said this over, and over