doj rule and now a full-fledged criminal case it was remarkable. >> i thought there would be a lot of pro trump people there and there really were not. and then, my nbc family all the producers and camera operators and got in line and stood in line for a really long time. the thing that i learned is it's not what you are wearing that makes a difference. it's what you wear on your feet because where you get cold is through the soles of your dress shoes. but people understand you don't just walk to the courthouse and they whisk you in. you line up outside across the street because they anticipate people showing up. so you have three different lines. it's like flying on an airline where they put you in a different group of people. >> there are two courtrooms.