he seems to be well every but he's focused on mr. eastman, he seems to be quite a strong participant in the fake elector scheme writing three different memos. i guess i want to start with since you are somebody who sat there and listened to him, what were your impressions for the substance of his testimony his, demeanor, what did you make of him? >> well, i think he's a trooper lever. he wrote actually four memos, three that the committee had and one that we didn't outlining really the plot to overturn the election. you know, i don't know the man but he certainly was focused on overturning the election and i think my believe is he will be held criminally to account for that. >> so one of the things that you mention was this idea that the roads separate memos but the committee only had three of them.