reparations, that he wants to support the clyburn plan. how do you respond to that? >> how i respond is saying rest in peace to representative john conyers. he was pushing hr-40 since 1989. >> right. >> in his lifetime he got to see us as a community get behind that. unfortunately he didn't get to see that bill go through. that bill is reintroduced with tweaks and could use further tweaking. saunders i saw from regular run of the mill black working people put the pressure on him and we were advised that this is something to re-evaluate and look at. within 50 to 60 days to he turned from i don't know and then i'll sign it. >> all right. >> to me, to me bigger than simply saying will you give me reparations, i learned in that moment i have an apply to take my word, trust and depend that i'm telling them the truth and