same time, dealing with our opposition to banning moves alums, and dealing with a two-state solution in israel. what are you trying to say in this article, and why is that important? >> yeah. so when we think about black and jewish relations, i think it's so critically important, as you pointed out. you had jews involved in the formation of the wac p -- to jews and a black killed in 1964 trying to register blacks to vote in mississippi. and of course, we have a wonderful relationship between -- one of the things i tried to do in this article is point out that this relationship, which had been very historic, was never a golden age, but it was certainly a better age, i would argue, needs to be rekindled, for sure. and what i try to do in the article is talk about the ways in which you working with jonathan greenblatt, ceo of the anti defamation league, is very