to say the levees have withstood. it is too early to say that the pumps have withstood. we hope and pray that the levees and the pumps withstand the intensefication of both the rainfall and the storm surge. >> so is this the real first test that we are seeing of the levees in new orleans since all of this investment to and bring them to a level of being able to be a fortress for the city? is this the first real test? >> this is the test, reverend. this is the real live test as to whether that new system of intense raising levees to higher heights, improving levees, creating redundacy with storm barriers and barriers to withstand storm surge can withstand this. i have concerned. 65% of the region is below sea