Put out by the white house will fail. Why is that, mr. Speaker . The obama plan led and driven in this atmosphere with the way he goads the hostility, i think its very hard to imagine that his bill is going to pass the house. So republicans will block any plan because its an obama plan. Because they personally dont like the president. Senator marco sprubio called th plan dead on arrival. Dead on arrival . The plan includes elements hes in favor of. The difference . President obamas name. Then theres senator mccane. Fresh off admitting what was ahead of national security. He was asked about his delusional conspiracy theories on libya. He was having a massive cover up. Susan rice said there was a lot of confusion. Im asking do you care do you care im asking you. Do you care im asking you, do you care whether four americans died . Do you have the reasons for that . Shouldnt people be held accountable. You said there was a cover up. A cover up of what . Of the information of concerning the deaths of four brave americans. Senator mccain has no clue what cover up hes even talking about. And just listen to his buddy, Lindsey Graham solution to the debt. If you want to look at ways to find 1. 2 trillion over the next decade, lets look at obama care. Oh, yeah, the answer to it all. The answer to all life problems. Repeal health care. Theyve said no to every idea ive proposed. Every policy ive proposed. Even ideas theyve traditionally agree withed. Weve had situations where they would sponsor bills, id say okay, they said oh, if youre okay with it, were against it. Its true. And now members of their own party are letting everyone know what its all about. Its personal and it ees despicable. Joining me now is former governor ed rendell and michelle cottle. Thanks to both of you for being on the show tonight. Thanks, reverend. Governor rendell, did mr. Gingrich, in effect, spill the beans . Well, yes and no. If you remember, reverend, i was on your show on thursday or friday and mccain had said basically the same thing. An obama immigration bill would fail. Not even concerning himself with what the details were. Really, this has been going on since august of 2011. In his estimation, the bill would have created 1. 1 million new jobs. And every element had been approved by republicans before, in separate bills. And, yet, every element of it, virtually, was voted down bring the same republican who is had been in favor of it before. And they havent stopped. But let me tell you, and i said this last week and i think you agree. Theyre doing this at their own peril. Now, i think its so clear that they wont agree with anything just because the president supports it, they are killing themselves. They backed infrastructure spending, they had no problem with deficit spending under president bush. They also backed Financial Disclosure and captain trade. All 06 that reversed when president obama opposed any and all of these. Look, this is an extension with what we saw with mitch mcconnell. They were going to be obstructionist and hold obama to be a oneterm president. Just because they failed at that doesnt mean they can stop all of that programming of four years. A lot of people that got stopped in 2010, now, its not just whether or not they like the president , they were voted in by people who voted against the president. So they have constituents who hate the president in many cases as much as they do and they cant back down. Governor, talking about they failed in the last election, over the weekend, the governor tagged democrats to socialists. In his speech, he said election day was a body blow to americans. A body blow to freedom. We are against a strategy thats ta taking place by liberals, democrats, whatever they call themselves nowadays, socialists, marxist. This isnt allen west. This is the senior senator from wisconsin, governor. Reverend, do you think thats doing the we e Republican Party one wit of good. . Its going to make them a Smaller Party with a narrower and smaller base. Remember, even though they redistricted to try to protect their members, there were plenty of seats like the congressional seats held by republicans that dont want to hear this, were against it because the president is for it. You know, michelle, its just outrageous. You have congressman paul broun sending out a fund raising letter. In it hes touting that hes the first member of congress to call president obama a socialist. And the right wing media has fuell eled this derangement fro the beginning. Listen to this, michelle. Barack does not have his hand on the bible. Hes not going to succeed. Socialism has failed. This president has exposed himself as a guy, over and over and over again, who has a deepseeded hatred for white people. In obamas america, the white kids now get beat up with the black kids cheering yeah, right on, right on, right on. Amnesty for illegal aliens. If you are going to be president of the united states, you have to be born in this country. Its not a traditional america anymore. There are 50 of the voting public who want stuff. They want things. Who is going to give them things . President obama. Barack obama is a socialist. He believes in socialism in redistributing wealth. This is stunning hostility and venom against the president. It is stunning. And there was a lot of talk about whether or not the echo chamber served the conservative movement. I will say this, people talk about how much obama gets abused. This happened a lot with bill clinton, too. It was pretty vicious right up until they wanted to use bill clinton as the foil for talking about how bad obama was. But they never asked for bill clintons birth certificate. On top of this, the president of fox news comes out and accuses the president of being devicive the president of fox news actually says let me quote him correctly. The president likes to divide people into groups. Hes too busy getting the middle class to hate rich people, blacks to hate whites, he is busy trying to get everybody to hate each other. When this president has tried in every way he can to do the opposite of that. Of course. I mean, its ludicrous. First of all, its incredibly hip critical for the president of fox news to call nibble devicive. Thats the whole game theyve been playing sinls they started as a news channel, number one. But michelle used a very good term, the echo chamber. They do talk to each other. That one woman in the series of excerpts you cited, that one woman said he wants to redriblt wemt. But they talked to each other so much, they begin to believe their own rhetoric. It is heading down a very danger ousz path. Very danger ousz path. Governor ed rendell and michelle cottle, thank you both for your time tonight. Coming up, this 18yearold mother shot and killed near chicago. Hours after her sister watched president obama speak on gun safety. Why we must change. Plus, karl rove is talking about witches and praising Hillary Clinton . Maybe its time to rethink this rebranding campaign. And on president s day were asking does president obama deserve a spot on mt. Rushmore . Big president s day show on tap. Stay with us. We, the people, declare today the most evident of truths, that all of us are created equal. The star that guys us still just as our fore bearers, just as it guided all of those men and women, sung and unsung who left footprints along this great mall to hear a preacher say that we cannot walk alone. To hear a king proclaim that our individual freedom is inextrekbleine inextricably bound to if freedom of every soul on earth. Today is gonna be an important day for us. You ready . 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She was visiting friends and family when she was shot late friday night on her way to the store. She was on track to graduate high school and had planned to study culinary arts after graduation. The bullet was reportedly meant for her friend. Janays death is the latest tragedy in a series of senseless murders across this country. In just the two months since sandyhook, more than 19 american lives have been taken by gun violence. We have to end the epidemic of gun violence in this country. We have to do it for our children. But there is hope. This fight is moving in the right direction. Now is the time for change. Joining me now is clarencepaige. Thanks for being here tonight, clarence. Thank you, reverend. Good to be here. Janay mcfarland, anotherheartanother heartbreaking case of senseless gun violence. Its one more tragedy on top of the other ones weve had to deal with here recently. The irony here, of course, was, as you mentioned, her sister had just participated in the same ceremony which president obama was speaking and after leaving that event, she goes and hears that her sister has been shot up in chicago. This is ironically similar to the event that they were memorializing here, the killing of a 15yearold girl in the south side who had been a baton twirler. Yeah, hadiya pendleton. Exactly. Its one more tragedy and it adds more fuel to the current ferveer to get some tighter gun control legislation. So well see how this all transpires. Well, we heard over the weekend, senator john mccain did say he expects broad support on universal background checks. Listen. Senator coburn and mansion and some others who are working on a package that i think most of us will be able to support. I applaud their efforts. And obviously, we want to do everything we can to prevent guns from falling into the hands of people that are mentally unbalanced or unstable. Thats a step in the right direction, but i dont know that we can get them to take the rest of the walk vrnt it seems, as though hes at least predicting background checks. Is that a good forecast . Or am i being too opt mystic . There seepts to be a building consensus that something needs to be done. Se secondly, background checks is a politically safe issue, even for republicans, all of whom have been voting with the nra, virtually, on the gun control issue. Also a majority of nra members saying that they support background checks or dont mind them. You have even the nra itself back in the 90s supported background checks. Now, hes back pedaled on that. Now, there is thats oo politically safe issue. The oversized magazines should be a safe issue. So i would say its a safe prediction. But, yet, the leadership of the nra is still opposed to it. In fact, the president of the nra, david key, in an interview, says new Gun Legislation is unlikely to pass because, the difference between today and 15 years ago is that today, guns are cool. I mean, where has he been . I have no idea. I think thats really code language from the political fact, since 2000 when al gore lost West Virginia after the nra put about 25 million in ads in that state. Ef. Even joe manks wants something done. They see if theres anything theyre going to have to give up, its going to be that. When you see signs of progress all over the country, im looking at in colorado today, the house passed four gun control bills. A bill requiring gun purchases to pay the cost of their own background checks cleared the colorado house. The same day the chamber passed bills requiring background checks on private firearm sales and limiting gun magazines to 15 pounds. And this is in colorado which is not a state that has not been progun. You mentioned hatiya. Watch her mother on this ade. A piece of my heart is gone. Congress is debating how to fix our gun laws. They can start with background checks for all gun sales. So the fight is on and i think the results are for our children around the country. Ip thi i think we have a shot at moving forward, clarence. I any so. The thing is the nra has a lot of money and their members are very passionate about this issue. Until now, weve seen people who are progun control, progunsafety and havent been as passionate about it. Now i think were seeing a really bright moment here, if you will, or some kind of common sense reform. I do. I see light at the end of the tunnel. I just hope its not the train coming. I hear you. Clarence, thank you for your time tonight. Coming up, shes barack. Shes back. Sarah palin, the toast of the party. Wait until you see where shes headed. And from the appalachian trail to the campaign trail. Mark sanford speaking out and its revealing. 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Because for 200 years, weve been helping ideas move from ambition to achievement. And the next great idea could be yours. Big news for the future of science today. The Obama Administration is launching an effort to map the human brain and gain new insights into how it works. We applaud the president s initiative. And we hear at politics nation are excited to be a part of it. Our own crack team of scientists have been hard at work mapping the Republican Brain to better understand what the heck is going on in there. Our initial findings show that tax it cuts for the rich make up a huge percentage of the gop mind. In fact, its just about 47 . The antiobama cortex is a key part of the Republican Brain. Those neurons light up whenever the president talks about anything. Its amazing. Weve all saw identified two stimulus lows in the gop brain. One side opposes it while the other side takes credit for it back in their home districts. But our biggest discovery, we were able to confirm the existence of the gops compromise gland. Weve magnified it a thousand times for viewers at home. Its highly underdeveloped in the Republican Brain. Its a bit stunted. But its there. Joining me now to discuss our scientific findings are Dana Millbank and me rearia theresa cubar. Dana, let me show you what karl rove said on sunday about tea party republicans. The more people who participate, the better off we are. The more we examine these candidates from top to bottom, the more were like more rand paul. Karl rove wants more rand paul. Im stumped. What is rove thinking . He wants more people. More candidates who think universal health care is slavery. That seat belt laws are nanny state paternalism who would repeal the americans with disabilities act. Who says they want to disarm the food and Drug Administration and abolish the department of education and the federal reserve. More people like him would help the gop . Do you have a problem with that, reverend . Well, first of all, i want to congratulate you on the successful mapping there. I think, however, the compromise gland is vestigule organ, much like the appendix. Heres the situation with karl rove. He has gotten himself crossways with the conservatives in the party saying he wants to protect the mainstream candidates. He needs to throw them a bone right now. Hes trying to say, its okay, i like guys like ranld paul. I just dont like that woman who was a witch in delaware. The problem here, of course, is this, by saying rand paul is the guy we liked, yes, all of those things youre talking about, rand paul gave a speech stating that there wasnt a single action in the last 40 years that he would have approved of. So is that the Republican Party that karl rove is looking for . I doubt it. Now, maria theresa, Newt Gingrich yesterday declared the gop has a Technology Problem. Listen to this. They are a Super Bowl Team that we ought to respect deeply. And we are a midlevel college team. You cant just go out and buy this. This is a fundamental rethinking of how you relate to the american people. Now, let me get this right. Im trying to understand the Republican Brain, maria. Okay, reverend. Ill try to help. I dont know. Giving the message, the one thats antiimmigrant, antipoor, antiwomen is going to help them . I think what he wants you to understand is that technology is fantastic because it helps you disseminate your policies. But may believe you dont have the public knowing exactly what youre against. And back to what karl rove is doing, i think karl rove recognizes that the tea party did something incredibly well. That was they ran right of center candidate against incumbents in 2010. Thats why theyre calling foul. They dont like the fact that karl rove is a student of politics and strategy and winning. We have to get back on the map. We have to win statewide elections, we have to go where the country is going. And that is, in virginia, the majority who believes theres basically a role for government and a role that youre being truthful. Now, dana, when you look at the fact theyre talking about rebranding the right wing, but then im looking at the roster of speakers for cpat. Heres some of the speakers lined up. Just today, we learned sarah palin is going to speak, as well. Now, is this the most forwardlooking panel they could have advised for a brave new gop . Yeah, theres a little bit of a contradiction here. Now, Newt Gingrich said maybe a few weeks ago that republicans, heres their problem. They just need to be the happy party. Now hes saying its just a Technology Problem. Maybe it is a Technology Problem to make it the happy party and that needs to be achieved with some sort of a pharmaceutical intervention there. But what the lineup at cpac illustrates is that there is something going on other than a message herement theyre going to try it every which way to say it is something other than the substance of the issue. Im delighted to see that sarah palin has found light after fox news and i look forward to covering her speech here in washington. Democratic strategist, bob schrum. He wrote an article saying hes not quite done with his work yet. He says in the article, in effect, you will have to run out for a third term in the midterms. He will have to say you elected a president whos on your side . Now will you elect a congress on your side so we can move America Forward . Maria, will the president fight to change the congress as part of his agenda for the second term . I mean, the fact that he immediately enlisted ofa now made it a nonpart a forprofit organization that basically is trying to mobilize the 16 million voters. Hes going to need to get a congress thats friendly to him. Thats why youre seeing karl rove say wait a second, we need to go back into New Hampshire and have a much more modernist Republican Party. Do you have the same diagnosis . I hi e think youve done some Extensive Research on the brain tonight, but i would recommend lots of bedrest. Thank you, dr. Dana, thank you maria teresa. Thanks for your time. Ahead on president s day, were asking who is more deserving of a spot on Mount Rushmore . President obama . Or president reagan . And Michelle Obama reveals what inspired her bangs. Stay with us. Its politics nation on msnbc, president s day. To grow, we have to boost our social media visibility. More likes. More tweets. So, beginning today, my son brock and his whole team will be our new senior social media strategists. Any questions . Since we make radiator valves wouldnt it be better if we just let fedex help us to expand to new markets . Hmm gotta admit thats better than a few likes. I dont have the door code. Whos that . He won a contest online to be ceo for the day. How am i supposed to run a business here without an office . [ male announcer ] fast, reliable deliveries worldwide. Fedex. [ male announcer ] the rhythm of life. [ whistle blowing ] where do you hear that beat . Campbells healthy request soup lets you hear it. In your heart. [ basketball bouncing ] heart healthy. Great taste. Mmm. [ male announcer ] sounds good. Its amazing what soup can do. I love her bangs. She looks good. She always looks good. President obama weighing in on his wifes bangs. The first lady revealed the new do on her 49th birthday and right before the president s second inauguration. It seemed like just about everyone had an opinion. But now were hearing want inspired her to make the change. Im going to be 50 next year, okay. You look gorgeous. Its all the apples. Its the apples. But this is my midlife crisis, the bangs. I couldnt get a sports car, they wont let me bunji jump, so, instead, i kept my bangs here. Youre still the boss of your hair. I can do this. This is all mine. I think the bangs look great. But well be ready if you ever decide to do that bungi jump. And what we love. So if youre one of them people who gets heartburn and then treats day after day. Block the acid with prilosec otc and dont get heartburn in the first place [ male announcer ] one pill each morning. 24 hours. Zero heartburn. But they havent experienced extra strength bayer advanced aspirin. In fact, in a recent survey, 95 of people who tried it agreed that it relieved their headache fast. Visit fastreliefchallenge. Com today for a special trial offer. Well, its president s day. A day when were hit with some of the tackiest tv ads of the year. But its also a day when we think about what makes a good president. When we think about what we want from our commander in chief. After all, its an elite group. We live with these president s on our tv sets in our living rooms every day for years. Theyre a strong presence in our lives and they lead to some pretty strong opinions, too. Should reagan be on mount rushmor . A lot of republicans think so. Should obama be on rush mor . Weve talked about that, too. We know this president has his eye on history. Hes talked about lincoln as a role model and hes drawn lessons on both what to do and whatnot to do from the president s of the past. Doug, youre a part of a select group of historians who have regular dinners with president obama at the white house. How important is history to this president s thinking about his job and his agenda . Well, its unbelievably important. He reads all of the relevant backs, whether its on eisenhower, f. D. R. , l. B. J. He likes to converse on all of these presidencys. You learn about the mistakes and also the advantages that other president s had. Now, lincoln is loved by barack obama because no matter how badly he might have it with congress, lincoln had it worse. I mean the country just being ripped apart. U now, a survey came back saying number one was lincoln, two, washington, three, f. D. R. , four, teddy roosevelt, five, truman. Now, what do all of these president s have in common . And what does that tell us about where president obama might ultimately end up . All of them have a huge amount of self k69s. They believe in their own gain. You also have to communicate well with the exception of true man, who wasnt that good with media, you know, theodore ro roosevelt was extremely good with cartoonists and novelists and poets. Lincoln, writing such eloquent pieces as, you know, the gettysburg address, able to communicate the emotions of the time to the american people. Washington was different because he was first wae wa came in and didnt know what Foreign Policy he should be. Should he be doing business with britain . He didnt know how to organize government. Thats why washington usually follows lincoln as number two. Now, even republicans give president obama credit for being a great communicator. Yeah, and i particularly think that last the second inaugural barack obama is going to be quite famous. And also on the state of the union address. This last one was very well written. Some day, somebody could do a book on the speeches of barack obama. No, w, if you look at a comparison, a tale of two president s, you compare the president and his predecessor. President obama is ending two wars. President bush started two wars. President obama got bin laden, bush lost bin laden. President obama got 63,000 private jobs, president bush lost 63,000 jobs. So if you compare him to his predecessor, yes, a lot of people think he is well on his way to being on a list of great president s. Obama care is in mid course. Its going to be a huge accomplishment. And i think president obama has not gotten enough credit for the bailout of general motors. It came out a lot. But that was a Pivotal Moment when he saved the autoindustry. I think that also might be a big part of a legacy that will keep him ranked towards the top of the president s. Clearly, a good portion of these would only further underscore the topranked president s. You know what, reverend, president s have this revisionism. Everyone is looking at Dwight Eisenhower lately. Professor, thanks for your time tonight. Thanks. Happy president s day. Same to you, sir. Ahead, why every day should be president s day, no matter what your politics. Next. All stations come over to mission a for a final go. This is for real this time. Step seven point two one two. Verify and lock. Command is locked. Five seconds. Three, two, one. Standing by for capture. The most Innovative Software on the planet. Dragon is captured. Is connecting todays leading companies to places beyond it. Siemens. Answers. 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Its not okay to point in his face. Its not okay to question his place of birth. Its not okay to claim your number oneonone goal is to defeat the president. I disagreed with nearly everything the bush a administration did. I questioned the reasons we went to war, i criticized his tax cuts for the rich. I everybody led marches against his administration. But i meant with president bush. I always had respect for the presidency. When we met, it was always mr. President. He was not my choisz and he was certainly