was a very sleblelective releas information from the compound. that seemed to have one purpose and that was to diminish bin laden in the eyes of the muslim world, to belittle him, almost. you see this picture of this vain old man sitting in front of a tv set with a clicker watching himself in his glory days, the fact that he's got the white beard in real life and then contrasted with the dyed beard he uses for his videos shows his vanity, shows how he tried to cultivate his image. that was the purpose of all this. the other purpose there, though, we talked about before, was the comments about ayman al zawahiri, by the u.s. intelligence briefer designed also to sort of belittle him, talked about what -- how unpopular he is and al qaeda circles, how he's a control freak and a micromanager and he's going to have a fight on his hands if he wants to be the next leader of al qaeda. clearly designed both to diminish him and also to maybe psych him out to get him to do something that might, you know, allow u.s. intelligence to track him down all the quicker. >> speaking about who might take up that mantle of the leader of al qaeda central, one of the perspective new leaders of al qaeda central is facing charges in chicago. you're following that too. >> yes. the most dangerous terrorist americans have never heard of, he is on -- he's at large, of course, but there is that very interesting trial coming up next week in chicago against a chicago businessman charged with -- charged with both the mumbai attack and the attack on a -- a planned attack on a danish newspaper, kashmiri is at the center of that second attack. he is behind it. he is somebody u.s. officials are watching very closely as a potential next leader of al qaeda. >> national investigative correspondent michael isikoff. thank you. >> thank you. >> the white house decided not release images of bin laden after he was killed, but it seems there was no hesitation of releasing the videos we have been talking about. what does the administration think the impact of the videos will be? pete williams joins us live from d.c. pete, so, they did release video, but not pictures. >> no, still pictures, right. as far as the volume of this information, it is going to take weeks if not months to go through it all. now, a good deal of it is on computer storage media on either computers or hard discs or what they call thumb or jump drives. and, of course, not in english, but it can be translated. one of the things that the government has going for it is that the national security agency regularly harvests vast amounts of data so i think in addition to having human eyeballs go over all of this, it seems highly likely that they'll feed all of this data into the nsa computers for them to sort through, look for word pattern recognition, look for links, look for the kinds of data that they normally sift for, so that will be of some help to the government here, but they're basically looking for five things as they go through this in a very broad sense. first of all, location of any high value targets. people we have already known about that were leaders of al qaeda, where are they now, can they be arrested. second, identity of new al qaeda, people we didn't know were in al qaeda, better idea of who's in the network. thirdly, of course, any potential plots they find. interesting one here, sources of money, who is giving money to al qaeda. because those are important people to find as well. and then, of course, obviously they'll be looking for any possible connections to pakistan, either civilians in pakistan who were supporting bin laden or helping to conceal him or if, indeed, any of this exists, any connections he may have had to officials in pakistan. >> good yield to lot there. how long might this take? >> months, certainly. you know, we got a very quick readout from the discussion of possibly attacking trains because that was in a notebook that was found and that was very easy to get to quickly, but now they have to decrypt a lot of this stuff on the computers. none of it is in english. it has to be translated. this will take a long, long time. we don't still -- at least i -- if somebody in the government knows, we don't know, to have a good sort of overall look of how much of this stuff is, you know this is a lot of data here, how much of this is video and that can soak up a lot of data. how much is video, maps or graphics, how much is just endless recitations from the koran and how much is actual what you might call actionable intelligence. we know a fair amount of it is, what percent of the universe is, we don't have a good handle on that yet. >> we shall see. you have the latest for us. pete williams, thanks so much. a new poll by nbc news showing the vast majority of americans thinks pakistan was complicit in hiding bin laden. 72% say pakistani leaders did know where the al qaeda leader was holed up and withheld that information. 13% say pakistan did not know and more than half of those polled feel strongly the obama administration should not release a photo of bin laden's corpse. 24% strongly feel the photo should be released. as we mentioned, pakistan's prime minister has ordered an investigation to find out if officials in his country knew bin laden was hiding there. the compound is located in abbottabad, 35 miles away from pakistan's capital city islamabad. and that's where peter alexander is standing by live for us. how are pakistanis reacting to the release of these videos so far. >> reporter: yeah, richard, it is a good question. i think that the pakistani people in general are skeptical if not suspicious of the u.s u.s.' -- still don't even believe that bin laden was killed in this raid, let alone that he was -- but the government here acknowledges this was an intelligence failure, but they say it is a failure that the entire world should share the blame for. with the new release of those videos you've been discussing, we are seeing these five individual videos with the audio removed, and as we have noted, they show bin laden less as than world famous notorious terrorist, but more like a prisoner in his own home. they are the latest in a long line of osama bin laden videos. but these tapes the u.s. government wants you to see, armed only with a tv remote, a gray bearded bin laden appears to be an old man, watching videos of himself. as one observer described, like an aging actor, imagining a comeback. his surroundings are sparse, hardly a million dollar mansion. american officials insist up until his death, bin laden remained an active leader of al qaeda. even as he avoided detection for more than five years in a military town just two hours outside islamabad. president obama believes bin laden had a support network inside pakistan. >> we don't know whether there might have been some people inside of government, people outside of government, and that's something that we have to investigate and more importantly the pakistani government has to investigate. >> reporter: other newly released videos shows obama fumbling his prepared statements, looking off camera for some sort of direction. we showed the videos to a former head of pakistani intelligence, who dismissed the clips as meaningless. >> this doesn't prove anything. it doesn't prove he's still in charge. >> reporter: is it possible that osama bin laden lived in abbottabad for more than five and a half years without the help of anyone within the pakistani intelligence or military? >> i am absolutely certain that it is possible. and i am absolutely certain that the military or the isa did not provide him any advice. >> reporter: the u.s. wants access to bin laden's three wives, currently in pakistani custody. the youngest, amal, reportedly told authorities the family lived here, just an hour and a half outside islamabad as early as 2003. this is a rural farming village, a place where villagers say everyone knows one another. they say it is impossible that a 6'4", foreigner, a man with a large family and familiar face like osama bin laden would ever have hidden here. no one would dare give him shelter, this man explains. this nation is still suspicious about the u.s.' version of events. with many unconvinced bin laden was even killed. the prime minister's remarks were made before the parliament, but he spoke in english. it appeared -- made one important point during that visit as well saying that he is -- the compound to be leveled where osama bin laden lived. they want to make sure it doesn't become a shrine in itself. >> thank you very much. 2345nato's secretary says i will not change the mission in neighboring afghanistan. right now there are 130,000 nato troops in afghanistan. most of them are americans. nato is expected to hand over control to afghan troops in two years. i spoke with general andrews rasmussen, the secretary-general there. what is your take on the links that may or may not exist between pakistan's government and osama bin laden as he lived in -- within their borders? >> certainly there are a lot of questions to be answered. and i'm confident that it is also in the interest of the pakistani government to seek convincing answers to these questions. my bottom line is this, we need a positive engagement of pakistan, if we are to ensure long-term peace and stability, not only in afghanistan, but in the whole region. so we want to engage pakistan in a constructive process. >> let's turn to libya right now. obviously a lot of sorties being managed by nato at this moment. gadhafi currently still alive and in the country. and still firmly in power, some might say. if this is a stalemate as you have described in the past, in some of the language you've used, what is the solution? is it political and/or more military action perhaps on the ground? >> we will keep up the military pressure. it is around five weeks ago we took responsibility for this operation. and we have made significant progress. since then, we have carried out more than 5,500 sorties out of which almost half have been air strikes. so we will keep up that high pressure. but we have to realize that there is no military solution solely to the problems. we need a political process that further isolates gadhafi and his regime and also supports the opposition. >> secretary-general, but russia and china have some concern. they have come together and they have said no troops on the ground. and they're concerned about nato going down that road. is there a trust deficit here with some of the international community and nato? >> we have no intention whatsoever to put boots on the ground. the u.n. security council resolution excludes the use of troops on the ground. and we have no intention to go down that path. >> nato secretary-general anders rasmussen, thank you for spending time with us today. >> you're welcome. there is a reason it is called the mighty mississippi and right now the river is just hours away from cresting. inches from record-setting levels there. how officials are getting everyone out of town. plus, everyone has dreams including oprah winfrey. wait until you hear what she wants to do after her last show wraps up. this one works. ooh, the price sure doesn't. i'm tired of shopping around. 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are there any lines of defense at this moment, sand bags or anything? >> reporter: the army corps of engineers they have been out, they're inspecting all the levees. they put it in great perspective as to how much water is actually coming through here. here is what they had to say. >> to use an analogy, in one second that water that is going in front of us right now or behind us right now would fill up a football field 44 feet deep. in one second. >> reporter: so how do you fight that? that is quite an opponent. this system of levees was set up after those floods in the 1927 and 1937, and so far you know it depends where you live, how you feel about all this, a lot of people are going to be just, you know, they will have lost everything by the time the water starts receding. one more note, richard, it is not going to go down quickly. it will be a slow process and they're expecting rain at the end of the week. >> janet, how have the people been reacting to all of this? we see the headlines, it is absolutely devastating, yet some parts of the south, they're dry. they have a drought and over there in tennessee, it is absolutely wet. >> reporter: i live in texas. we would kill for this water right now. texas is in extreme drought. and here they have got too much water. it has been such a tough time for the south, not to mention the tornadoes of something like two weeks or ten days ago now. but you see a great sense of community here. what you can't see behind me is all the volunteers and officials, people who are working around the clock, have given up their days off. i will add that not everybody who has been asked to evacuate has. and as i said, those are volunteer evacuations. some people don't want to walk away from everything they own and you can understand that, richard, but it could put lives in danger. >> it is so tough. very tough decision for them. janet shamlian in memphis, thank you very much. arizona state lawmakers want to build more fence along the mexican border, even if the federal government is against the idea. wait until you hear how they plan to pay for that. an amazing story of survival. 49 days trapped in a vehicle in the wilderness with only trail mix, beef jerky and snow. elliott nelson owns seven restaurants within blocks of each other in tulsa, oklahoma. the establishments range from mexican, japanese, a deli, even a bowling alley. it is a balancing act. the good news is he's his own competition. the bad news, he's his own competition. for more, watch "your business" sunday mornings at 7:30 on msnbc. too much on your plate? 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"not tonight, britta. not tonight." ♪ a group of arizona lawmakers want to build a fence along their border with mexico, with or without the federal government's help. they're announcing a new plan to collect online donations to pay for this fence. and to use prison labor to build it. a state senator says governor jan brewer signed a law making that plan a possibility. police in california say they have arrested a 28-year-old man for trying to storm the cockpit of a san francisco bound flight. the suspect is a yemeni national and witnesses say about ten minutes before the plane was about to land, he ran to the cockpit, yelling and making no sense and pounded on the doors. police say flight attendants and passengers jumped in to subdue him and the plane landed safely after that. the suspect has no known ties to terrorism. police are still investigating his motive. and could oprah winfrey be headed to broadway after her talk show ends this month? the chicago tribune says winfrey is meeting with producers and directors in new york and reading staread ing stacks of scripts. she vealed last month it was her dream to perform on broadway. u.s. officials say the information taken from bin laden's compound was the most significant amount of intelligence ever collected from a senior terrorist. what they're learning from the al qaeda leader. plus, natalee holloway's mother joins me next to talk about the search for the truth and how she's helping another family. but first for you, a look at what's hot on the web. the story of a 56-year-old canadian woman who survived seven weeks in the wilderness on little more than trail mix, beef jerky and snow. she was found by hunters on friday night in northern nevada, nearly 50 days after her taking off on a road trip with her husband. their vehicle was stuck in the mud. she reportedly lost about 30 pounds and did not think she would have survived for more than another few days. her husband is still missing. he left the van on march 22nd to go to try to find help. fim japhil jackson says he d his last nba game and it did not go so well. the dallas mavericks whooped his l.a. lakers 122-86 last night, completing a sweep of the two-time defending champions. phil jackson won 11 championships and has never had a losing season. not a way to go out, though. after five years co-hosting the "today" show, meredith vieira announced this morning that she will be leaving next month. >> i really had a great time, but time is one of those weird things, you can never get enough of it and it just keeps ticking away. i know i want to spend more of mine with my husband, richard and my kids, ben, gabe and lily who are rolling their eyes going no more time, mommy. >> an emotional moment. ann curry will take her place. natalie morales replaces ann curry and savannah guthrie becomes the anchor for the third hour of "today." 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>> well, if you look at prior operations candidly, we have never obtained something this large and if you think about the importance of getting out quickly to demonstrate that in fact we killed osama bin laden, this is partly an attempt to control the information space or information ops, demonstrating to the enemy that we are in control of the data. also, it is impressive if you think about the scale of this, it is on the order of a small college library. a lot of the material is encrypted. it is all in foreign languages. the good news for the american public to know is that we have got some of the best code breakers in the world and we have also got machine language translation skills to try to triage through this. >> chad, walk through that process or some of the processes that might be going through right now. as we go through that huge amount of data they have got right now, encryption as you mentioned, also if they were pulling live information when the s.e.a.l. team was on the ground, versus what they might be getting now. go through some of that for us if you would. >> it is called sensitive site exploitation or sse. they'll do a three-pronged approach. all hands on deck interagency effort where they have the best in the intel community on this. what you're going to see is the first cut will be using -- breaking the codes and then using our machine language translation skills to do rapid searches to look for key words that would relate to an imminent plot. the second would be looking for location-based nontime sensitive information. and the third tier will take longer, months or years where we'll use this information to build up what is called the encyclopedia on aq, which is, again, critical. even mundane bits of information from this will be important for future plot disruptions. >> hundreds of thousands of pieces of data that they're probably pulling together. we're at week one since that was harvested from the compound. where do you think they are in the process? >> well, they're moving incredibly rapidly. i think when you look at this and put it in context, however, the new national terrorism alert system announced by dhs shows there is two switches in the system now. one is called elevated, where we don't have specific information of a plot, but we have a general increase in threat level, and the highest level is now imminent. the fact that we have yet to go to even elevated is telling, which means that when you think about that information, at least so far we probably don't have information on an imminent domestic plot on the homeland but maybe abroad. >> quick one, last one for you, chad, as you're looking outside in, how well are the intelligence agencies working together, based on what you knew from before? >> i think incredibly well. if you look at the speed with which they're analyzing this information and also the ability to take the intelligence that was obtained on the courier and then pull together pebble by pebble over a decade this effort. when history looks back on it, intelligence history will show that all intelligence and military doctrine has been radically transformed to bring the tip of the spear, these covert operations, to be intelligence-driven as opposed to just being operationally driven. intelligence is the key. >> chad sweet, great conversations there. former chief of staff for the department of homeland security. thank you for your time today. >> thank you. even though natalee holloway disappeared six years ago, the case stayed at the top of the headlines thanks to her mother's tireless pursuit of joran van der sloot, the notorious suspect in her disappearance. van der sloot is in a peruvian jail, accused of killing another young woman exactly five years after natalee went missing. now beth holloway is taking the skills she's learned in the search for her daughter to take a fresh look at this case as well as some of the nation's other most famous missing persons mysteries. beth holloway joins me now live, her new show "vanished with beth holloway" premieres at 10:00 p.m. eastern on lifetime. thank you for joining us today. you say your experience with natalee's disappearance taught you a lot about hope. >> it did, absolutely. and one thing i learned early on is that hope becomes real when you have action behind it. so -- and that's what it's about. it's about keeping the steps moving forward in the search for your missing loved one. >> how has this show, and the process of putting the show together, helped you deal with the loss of your daughter or without knowing where your daughter is? >> you know, i'm not so sure if this show has really helped me as far as any type of cathartic experience. i think i look at the five years preceding and that was going around to the high schools and colleges to our young sons and daughters, giving them travel safety and personal safety messages. and so i feel as if, you know, the -- that was a cathartic experience for me. and now i'm hoping through vanished it is just to see what we can do to help other families. >> you are going to be helping another family. i understand that tonight in the episode you'll be looking at the case of the mcstays. >> right, right, taking a look at the mcstay family. this is absolutely a case that can be solved. so, you know, we just -- we know people have information. and that's what we hope to do is shed enough light on a case in order for it to be solved. >> this is a family of four that disappeared. what are some of the details related to the case that you're looking into on "vanished". >> well, the details surrounding this case is you have four family members, a mother, a father and two young children, who simply walked away and vanished from a life that they had full bank accounts still sitting there, a home, i mean, this was just so unimaginable for us to wrap our minds around how the four of these family members just vanished. >> do you think here that there might be a possibility that you might get more leads with the case with your daughter through this show as well? >> i haven't really thought about that. i feel like as far as my case, i feel like i have a sense of settlement in prison where joran belongs. i think it is more on how i can help other families. >> what do you think your daughter would say about the new show that you're starting? what would she say to you? >> well, i hope everything i do, you know, everything i do it a tribute to natalee. i feel that she would be pleased. and just honor the work that i'm doing as well for other families. >> beth holloway, thank you. mother of natalee holloway with her new show tonight called "vanished". we appreciate your time today. >> thank you, richard. right now, a florida court is choosing the jury who will decide the fate of casey anthony, the woman accused of killing her 2-year-old daughter cayl in 2008. that trial will take place in orlando, but the jury candidates are from another county. a two-hour drive away because of the intense media coverage that the judge says will be bigger than the o.j. simpson trial. kerry sanders is live in clear water, florida. kerry, it could take more than a week here to get that jury. can she get a fair trial? that's probably the question being asked a lot. >> reporter: there are two questions really in this particular case with the high profile nature of this. first of all, getting an impartial jury. that means people who have not made up their mind or who can set aside what they already know and listen to just the evidence that is presented in the case. but, there is also the other much more difficult aspect here of finding people two hours away, where in clear water, florida this is pinellas county and they're two hours away from orange county, orlando, where the case will move. and so the judge is going to sequester the jurors, 12 jurors, plus eight alternates, in a hotel room for up to eight weeks. and so they're going to leave their homes, they're going to leave their families and in many i was they're going to withdraw from society. the judge was explaining to the 110 potential jurors today that they're going to have very limited access to the internet, which is a daily part of everybody's life these days. and that he will make special accommodations if they need to pay bills online. but he doesn't want them using their phones, looking on the internet, reading things which would eventually potentially lead to a story about casey anthony. so 110 potential jurors. it is going to take at least the next two days, but the judge set aside a week to pick the juror and i got to say, just from my read, that's optimistic. >> put this in context for us. kerry, it seems like this case has been going on for some times for years. we're getting started now. is this timeline normal for this type of case that you've seen? >> well, yes. it has taken a long time. remember, there is so much scientific evidence in this case. there are more than 25,000 pages of documents in this murder case. casey anthony is accused of killing her 2-year-old daughter caylee. now, it goes way back almost three years, initially casey said that her daughter caylee was missing. but she waited 31 days before she even reported that her daughter was missing. and so while the investigation never called this a kidnapping and never looked at a fictitious nanny at the time, who may have been holding caylee they kept all of their attention on casey and ultimately brought these charges. >> the jury being chosen now in the casey anthony case. kerry sanders in florida for us, thank you. the national average for gas is flirting with $4 a gallon. but guess what, prices could soon go down. plus, newt gingrich gets ready to make a big announcement. why his brand name could help him in 2012. 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>> i'm not surprised he's jumping in because he's certainly been making waves for a while. i just don't think that newt gingrich is going to have the answer that the republican party and their electorate are looking for. because he's been out of the game for a while. let's remember when he got out of the game, it was under a cloud of scandal. he was scene as a very divisive figure. and so i think the question will be has it been enough time between then and now for him to remake himself and what has he been doing in all that time, that could be a liability on top of the impressions that people already have of his previous record. we'll see. >> gingrich has about 1.7 million voter and donor contacts according to what we understand at the moment. and he's raised about $32 million between 2009 and 2010. that's more than his potential 2012 rivals. the question might be here, combined, by the way, but in a recent poll he tied for fifth place with donald trump on the enthusiasm scale. where is the gap here? >> i think there is a couple of things. number one on the enthusiasm side, i think part of what we're seeing here is just, you know, we saw story over the weekend about large republican donors, everyone is waiting to see who is really serious and who is really going to get in. i think that's part of the reason gingrich will make an announcement to sort of see if he can garner some support and kind of move up in the polls. at the same time, though, some of those financial dealings are a liability. the word is that part of the reason he has actually held off getting in for so long is to deal with some of the financial entanglements, he's involved in three or four different companies and organizations. one which is a film company, one which is american solutions, that's got some ties to a casino owner in las vegas, who is now under federal investigation for money laundering. so, you know, once we get a deeper dive into some of that, we may find that he's actually not suitable to be a candidate. >> let's listen to some of the sounds, what he said earlier. let's play that and i'll get your reaction. >> partially driven by how passionately i felt about this country that i worked far too hard and things happened in my life that were not appropriate. and what i can tell you is that when i did things that were wrong, i wasn't trapped in situation ethics. i found i felt compelled to seek god's forgiveness. >> twice divorced, admitted to an fair, can he overcome all of this? >> unclear. you know, that was an interview he did with christian broadcast network. he's obviously done a lot of outreach to the faith community to try to overcome some of that. you know, it is unclear whether or not that's going to fly with conservatives who feel like, you know, the things that he did are perhaps not suitable for someone in public office. more importantly, again, i think with newt gingrich, the biggest problem he'll face is he's not a new face, he doesn't have new ideas. i think the gop is looking for something new, something fresh. and i just don't think gingrich is going to offer that. i think he's a retread. >> maybe this will inject some interest, some energy. appreciate it, karen finney. thank you. >> thanks. side bar now in his first interview after the death of bin laden, president obama said one of the greatest successes of the mission was keeping it a secret. but what he did not say is whether he shared the secret with his wife. here's the president with "60 minutes'" steve croft. >> did you tell michelle. >> very few people in the white house knew. the vast majority of my most senior aides did not know. >> brooklyn-based hassidic newspaper may have to explain why it published an edited version of this now iconic situation room picture showing the president and his national security team watching a real time feed of the bin laden mission. one of its most enduring images as you can see here is secretary of state hillary clinton with her hand over the mouth. but the people did not get to see it. look here. the paper edited out clinton with all of the other women in the room. according to the jerusalem post, the religious paper never publishes pictures of women because they could be considered suggestive. learning more about bin laden thanks to what security officials are calling a mother load of information seized from his compound. where he was hiding in plain sight. but as jim miklaszewski reported on "morning joe," the most compelling question may never be answered here. >> there are still conflicting reports because one market operator said that they were buying pepsi. another said they were buying coke. it's the blindfold taste test. >> all right. we'll be right back. we get double miles every time we use our card... i'll take these two... ...no matter what we're buying. ...and all of those. and since double miles add up fast, we can bring the whole gang! it's hard to beat double miles! whoa dude [ male announcer ] get the venture card from capital one, money magazine's best rewards card if you aim to rack up airline miles. what's in your wallet? no matter when you get around to booking, hotels.com will have a great last minute deal waiting for you. like at the hotels.com 48 hour sale. this tuesday and wednesday only. hotels.com. be smart. book smart. so there is talk we could be experiencing less pain at the pump come summer, we hope. some experts say we could see prices drop by as much as 75 cents a gallon by the summer. even though the average cost per gallon is down slightly to $3.96. we're still paying 21 cents more than we did a month ago. if you look back a year, we're paying just $2.91 back then. melissa francis joins me now live. we like to hear this. when we saw the prices go up for an average barrel of oil, they said that for every dollar that we saw there, we would get one or two cents higher at the pump. is that true going down as well? >> it is not an exact correlation because they trade a little differently but that's roughly correct. we have seen the price of oil fall 15 bucks recently. that should be good for about 30 cents less per gallon. it takes about a month for that to trickle through. at the same time, the guy at your corner gas station has to lower the prices. he does that a lot more slowly than he did on the way up. they always say, when you talk to those retailers, they say i got really squeezed on the way up, it was a surprise increase. i have to lower my prices a little bit. we say prices go up like a rocket and fall like a feather. just sticky. >> fall like a feather. and talk about stickiness, when we look at the dollar, the dollar was a big discussion, how weak it was, and that was making it more expensive for us. >> that's true. that's one of the problems we'll continue to have. if you compare the all time high for gasoline was $4.11, when the price of oil was at $147 a barrel. right now it is $100 a barrel, but we're still at the $4 mark. a lot of the reason for the disparity is the fact that the dollar has gotten so much weaker. we're not as competitive at buying oil around the world as when we're competing with china and japan and everywhere else and india as they gobble up more oil. higher prices are here to stay. they may fall a little bit this summer. but, you know, the good old days, whatever those were, two bucks, we'll never see that again. >> take a bicycle, walk more, hitchhike, perhaps. when we look at china, it consumes more cars than the united states right now. that's going to be a challenge going forward as we take a look at what has happened recently. the question i've gotten, based on that reality, is will we -- when we hit $5 a gallon, will that be the time where there might be a fundamental change in the way the consumers perhaps deal with buying cars? >> it is interesting, people used to think that tipping point was at $4. we're there and we don't see huge change in behavior. last time we got to $4.11, over $4, we did see a big change in behavior. most economists and analysts think that's really the only thing that is going to cure our oil consumption, when it gets so expensive, it just becomes truly cheaper and a better decision to do something else, whether it is ride the train, car pool more, buy more efficient cars, whatever that is, or use an alternative fuel. just prices have to get so expensive that we all just stop buying gas. that's the only way to cure the problem, i think. >> we'll have nothing to talk about if gas prices go down too far. >> something else will explode, it will be fine. >> melissa francis, thank you very much. i'm richard lui. thank you for watching today. contessa brewer will be back tomorrow. up next for you, "andrea mitchell reports." hey, andrea. >> hi, richard, thanks so much. coming up next, will pakistan grant the u.s. access to bin laden's wives? 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