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[ female announcer ] the new classroom. see it. live it. share it. on the human network. cisco. southern discomfort. severe weather sweeping through the nation's southeast. it's developing news right now on msnbc saturday. plus, a fungus to fear. it is a killer that doctors have no way of stopping and right now doctors are very concerned. plus, spongebob's life-saving lesson. why a young girl is alive today because of it. good morning, everyone. i'm alex witt. it's 11:00 a.m. eastern, 8:00 a.m. out west. severe weather is slamming different parts of the country. look at that lightning there. hail, thunderstorms as well, all threatening different regions in the south today. that's new orleans. colorado is dealing with winter weather advisories for heavy snow and the thunderstorms are expected throughout the day in the midwest. for the latest, i'm joined here in studio by a very busy meteorologist, bill karins. >> they couldn't finish yesterday at the pga. they started again this morning. now because of more storms they stopped again. very difficult tournament. zurich classic down there. it is going to be difficult. that's the case, it is a difficult saturday for anyone that has plans in the southeast or up through the tennessee valley. that's the heart of our severe weather outbreak. so far we haven't had a lot of tornadoes. in the last 24 hours, i say "only" eight, but none of them did a lot of destruction. lot of wind damage in texas from yesterday. so far today, most of it has been in mississippi and now pushing in to alabama. the red boxes are the tornado watches. they cover a good chunk of mississippi, alabama, louisiana, to mobile, alabama. up towards nashville. that's the area of concern. we call that our storm center right there as a high-risk of severe weather, that's where we expect our tornado outbreak during the afternoon today especially. this is still early, the atmosphe atmosphere's still heating up. if we're going to get the big ones, usually they'll occur in the afternoon into the early evening. the severe weather threat goes up through the state of missouri, ohio valley, indianapolis, southern ohio, lexington, louisville. later tonight sliding toward chattanooga and atlanta. by tomorrow the severe weather heads off the coast. breaking down the forecast today, on and off thunderstorms, some of them severe for new orleans up to areas around little rock. i right now. memphis has a lot of flash flooding this morning. big storms are going to continue just to cycle and roll through. thankfully we clear out behind this storm system from a day of clean-up in many cases in the deep south. atlanta, down into orlando, the stormiest weather will be early sunday, clearing out late in the afternoon. up in new england not severe weather but a lot different than today. today, alex, i know you haven't been outside in a while. sunny, a beautiful spring day. tomorrow it won't be like that. >> thank you very much, bill karins. we'll go live to mississippi -- look at the picture there! thank you, bill. there is the proof. in just a few minutes, we'll get a report from the weather channel's mike seidel. for all the latest developments go to weather.com. a newly discovered strain of an airborne fungus has caused several deaths in oregon. it is now spreading into california and washington state. sounds scary, right? nbc's jeff rossen joins me now live with details. what are officials saying about this fungus? >> researchers at duke university say they are concerned especially about this sprain because it is affecting healthy people. the fungus is called cryptococcus gattii with a mortality rate of about 25%. so far there have been at least 23 deaths in california and the pacific northwest. there are currently 200 people who are known to be infected. a little about the fungus -- it can be treated but not prevented. currently there is no vaccine but the cdc is calling this disease very, very rare. scientists still haven't found the source of this strain, but they say they think it may be harbored in soil and it appears to be partial to douglas fir and eucalyptus trees. a lot of this is still developing along with engineers and scientists trying to figure out where it came from and how to develop a vaccine. >> you have to look at the symptoms and how people even know if they're infected. what are they? >> symptoms actually happen as early as two weeks after exposure but it can also take months for all of this to come together and manifest. symptoms include chronic cough, sharp chest pains, shortness of breath, headache, fever, and weight loss. so if you see one or more of those symptoms, and you think you may have been around the soil -- i don't even know how you would know if you with around the soil, this appears to harbor in soil, two weeks to a month after, this is something you should be concerned about. >> this is very confusing. >> could be the flu. >> exactly. thank you very much. for more on this airborne fungus and how the disease could affect family pets, including your dogs an cats, logon to msnbc satur.c. the coast guard is suspending its search for 11 missing oil workers in the gulf of mexico. officials say it is likely those men never made it off the platform. coast guard officials made the decision after calling the families of the workers. cleanup crews say they've already disposed of about half of the oil and diesel fuel spilled by that explosion. let's go now to the intense reaction this morning after the governor of arizona signed a controversial bill that enacts the toughest law in the nation against illegal immigrants. this law makes it a crime to be in the country illegally and requires police to question people about their immigration status if there is reason to suspect they are illegal immigrants. arizona's republican governor jan brewer's defending her decision. >> i've decided to sign bill 1070 into law because, though many people disagree, i firmly believe it represents what's best for arizona. >> now one immigrant group is already promising a legal fight. the governor signed the bill despite criticism from the president who says the measure is "misguided." nbc's mike viqueira is traveling with the president so he's live in asheville, north carolina. the president's vacationing with the first lady there while mike is on duty. good morning, mike. >> good morning, alex. >> let's get to this story. the president will be making that statement at that naturalization ceremony in the rose garden yesterday. what's all this about? >> reporter: well, one thing that both sides can agree on here, alex, is the need for stronger immigration laws. federal immigration laws coming from washington. the difference is of course how they get there. arizona cracking down on illegal immigrants, said to number about a half a million in arizona alone. this legislation is very controversial. it would lead to racial profiling, according to many opponents and pro-immigration reform advocates on the democratic side, and even on the republican side here in washington. no one needs to be reminded what a volatile issue this is dating back to the final days of the bush administration and his call, president george w. bush, for a so-called path to citizenship, something that's been picked up by the obama administration as well. but the folks in arizona want nothing to do with it. the president yesterday before coming down here to asheville, north carolina, he's at the historic grove park inn just over my left shoulder here golfing at this moment, as we understand it. a lot of this happening off the record. we won't see the president, trying to get a few days of r&r here in north carolina. but before coming down here appearing in the rose garden yesterday saying he'll have the department of justice look at this, see whether the racial profiling as expect of this as they see it at the white house is a violation of civil liberties. the very controversial phrase "within the law of reasonable suspicion," if a police officer or other law enforcement officer in arizona were to make a stop, let's say a traffic stop, and have a reasonable suspicion that the individual was an illegal immigrant, then they could ask them for documentation. a lot of people say that that is racial profiling. there is a huge controversy about that. in the meantime, the president has been trying to push in a manner of speaking some immigration reform here in washington, calling about a half-a-dozen republican senators over the course of the last week. it remains to be seen, however, how hard they're going to be pushing that at the white house. >> among those, senator scott brown, we are toll. but do you get a sense that the federal government believes that they've got a case here to challenge this arizona law? >> reporter: oh, absolutely. absolutely, they do. the president is going to be asking the department of justice to look into it to see if it violates existing civil rights statutes, civil liberties statutes, how long that process takes is anyone's guess. but in the meantime there are any number of lawsuits from outside organizations that are going to be challenging that law, alex. >> mike viqueira there in asheville, north carolina. working, not vacationing. see you tomorrow. new and chilling details in that plot to bomb new york city's subways last fall. a former taxi driver has pleaded not guilty to terrorism charges and says he got direct orders from al qaeda to target well-known structures in the city and cause maximum casualties. earlier i spoke with mike the is cough, senior investigative reporter fore"newsweek" and contributor. >> yesterday the queens cab driver who pled guilty said he, along with najibullah zazi who was the leader of the plot in the united states who got arrested last year on this, traveled to pakistan in the summer of 2008. they were intending to fight with the taliban, go to afghanistan. they didn't get there but they got recruited by al qaeda leaders. they identified them yesterday in federal cost. one was the chief of al qaeda, external operations, and they were the ones who directed them to launch this attack against the new york city subways. >> he is 1 of 3 men to plead guilty in connection with the new york city subway plot. the case against the 22-year-old who allegedly hacked into sarah palin's e-mail account resumes monday in tennessee but the star witness has already taken the stand. the former alaska governor testified friday that the intrusion into her e-mail disrupted her campaign and personal life. david kernell posted information from palin's e-mail on the web including family phone numbers that led to harassing calls. >> it was a big deal because as you're pointing out, access and communication is so extremely important when you're thousands of miles away from your children and you're not there to protect them, they're receiving threatening calls and messages, and a mama wants to be there to help the kids. at least be able to communicate with them. so it was a big darn deal, yeah, to have that communication stripped away. >> palin said there should be consequences but did not specifically comment on the 50 years facing krenell from several felony charges. we're watching developments on the storm front in the south. in a moment we'll go live to mississippi where folks are under the threat of severe weather there. also ahead, something about president obama you probably don't know about and it might not please the first lady. you're watching msnbc saturday. french fries, and our national passion for them, are legendary. classic. iconic. but times change. and people want better foods. so cargill helped a restaurant chain create a zero-trans fat cooking oil for their french fries. using select canola plants and inovative processing techniques while preserving their famous taste. because no one wants to give up a classic. this is how cargill works with customers. right now, walmart has rolled back prices on top lawn care brands like poulan pro, brute by briggs & stratton, pennington, scotts and spectracide. along with thousands of others all over the store. it's rollback time! save money. live better. walmart. s. developing now, a possible tornado outbreak is causing concern all over the south. parts of tennessee, alabama, mississippi, and louisiana are all under tornado watches today and they also face some dangerous hail and thunderstorms. up to two inches of rain is also expected to fall throughout the southeast. weather channel's mike seidel is live for us in greenville, mississippi and joins us with the very latest. how are things looking right now, mike? >> reporter: things aren't looking good for us today. right here locally we've been fine. we have a line that will come through in the next couple of hours with gusty winds and rain. numerous tornado warnings. so far these have been indicated by doppler radar. no sightings except for one funnel cloud in arkansas. i don't think our luck will hold out through the afternoon and this evening across mississippi, alabama, into tennessee, nashville now under a tornado watch through early afternoon. we're under a tornado watch here until 1:00 this afternoon. these storms will be ramping up. already nascar has scrubbed their activities at talladega today. they'll do a double-header do. the nationwide race will follow the sprint cup. tomorrow a much better day in the deep south. pga tour stop had issues yesterday with lightning and rain. they'll try to play today, that's going to be touch and go. they may play some golf on monday. bottom line is be safe today, let everyone know that may not be tuned in, even in this day and age of twitter and facebook and e-mail, some people don't know that there is severe weather and there could be tornadoes in their neighborhood especially ones that live in those homes that are not very safe like mobile homes in manufactured homes. again get the word out because this is the highest risk we've seen all season. we haven't had a lot of severe weather but today it ramps up across the deep south. tomorrow from northern florida up and east of i-95 into the d.c./baltimore area. but today it is the biggest day of the year so far and again, it is early. it is not even noon time and we've got the heating of the day and the prime tornado time generally is mid afternoon through the evening hours. alex? >> and all good advice there for the heads-up. just so you know, that pga tournament, i believe they started it, got under way, then they had to pull the plug. there is the story there from new orleans. okay. mike seidel, thank you. as we look at -- talking about the pga, guys, that's exactly why, that picture she just showed that you lightning strike. that happened yesterday, struck a tree. they said huh-uh, everyone off the course. that's why. check out weather.com for the latest weather updates. msnbc is the place for politics. immigration reform is moving up president obama's big agenda now that arizona's governor signed a bill into law making it a state crime to be in the u.s. illegally. the president says congress needs to act an immigration so there aren't more "misguided" efforts by arizona's measure. msnbc political analyst pat buchanan and democratic stre strategist, peter fenn, welcome back, guys. this is now moved to the forefront of president obama's plate. is this to his benefit politically or could this send his whole agenda that a tailspin? >> i don't know he's going to go all-out behind this because i really think this is a loser. my guess is that the president has been prevailed upon by the hispanic caucus which has been enormously loyal, helped deliver health care and said now you've got to give us what we want. he's doing this pro forma. i don't think this is going to go forward. i do think the president is going to win on his big wall street reform, if you will. i think he will probably get a supreme court justice after a great battle. and the energy bill is the one i think is pretty much up in the air. i don't think he's going to get cap-and-trade. we'll have to see what lindsey graham and joe lieberman have cooked up. >> okay. peter, pat has just gone through a lot of big issues here. a pew poll this week shows there is less appetite for the government solving these big issues. 52% say it is a major problem that the federal government is too big, too powerful. 58% say the federal government interferes too much in state and local matters. so how does the president move forward then with something like immigration reform, financial reform, all these other agenda items, given this kind of public sentiment? >> what i love about those kinds of polls, alex, is that they ask them in the abstract, then they ask you, you know, do you want a cleaner environment? and the public says, oh, yes, we need help on that. do we need to solve the immigration problem? oh, yes, we have to do something about that. do we need to crack down on wall street? oh, you bet we need to crack down on wall street. so the president said during the campaign, alex, you had to keep more than one or two balls in the air as president or as a candidate. and the fact is, he's got some very big balls in the air right now and pat ticked them off. i can agree with pat though. i think they're going to get an agreement on financial reform. i think that they're going to come up with an energy environment bill. i think lindsey graham is very serious about that. i think you're going to get some education legislation, too, which is really quite surprising in the old rule about don't try legislate six months before a mid-term election. we'll see. >> i think a lot of the reason why financial reform is going to pass, because i think there will be bipartisan spirit. right now nobody in an election year wants to be siding up with wall street, this particular election year. so bipartisan, there you have it. pat, i want a big picture perspective here. between health reform, the prospect for financial and immigration reform, is this president set up to impact the future in a way that no other has been in recent history? i mean, look what all he is tackling and accomplishing. >> well, i think if you take the health care certainly -- that's the big kahuna. that is major, major legislation. but i don't know that he's going to get -- financial reform is big legislation, too. i agree with that. but i don't know that he's going to get much more once you get past that, alex. and there's no question that the clock is running now on the president. the reason, my guess is, is that the hispanic caucus would be saying you got to go for immigration reform now, a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants, is because we all know we're going to be wiped out in november. it may be 30 seats lost in the house, it may be 25, maybe five in the senate but we're going to be weaker in january than we will be in june. that's why we got to move now. but i agree with you, the president's going to say we've done x, y and z, and two of these are pretty big things, or three of them if you throw in stimulus. >> the timing of all this, i guess the environment for this happening, peter, how big a factor are the president's democratic majorities in both the house and the senate here? would his own determination be enough to reshape policy if congress was shaped differently? >> well, that's a great question, alex. and one that i'm not sure we know the answer to. i do sense that if the pressure does build, they hold hearings this year on immigration, they look at it, it may get kicked over into 2011 where you have a different kind of congress. but it's got to be a bipartisan effort and it has to be a big bipartisan effort. it didn't make it last time when john mccain and ted kennedy were putting forth legislation. they had to pull it. but i think it is an interesting question about how is the economy doing, what are the unemployment numbers like, what is the job market like. that all affects some of these decisions for next year. >> alex, take the immigration bill. you're right, you had john mccain, the president of the united states, george bush, you had hillary clinton, you had barack obama, all behind that path to citizenship and the country rose up and defeated both political parties. the entire national establishment. now you've got mccain and members of the republican party bailing on it, and now very, very few are going to be for it. it is hard for me to see how the president of the united states is going to get this thing through in 2011. >> those are challenges, to be sure. guys, as always, so great to talk with you. you make my saturday mornings, boys. thanks so much. meantime, white house senior advisor david axlerod stopped by the "tonight show" last night to give jay and his fans an inside look at the obama administration. he says the president advises him on occasion especially when it comes to healthy eating. axlerod reveals the president has some indulgences of his own. >> i hope the first lady isn't watching because she's on a very good campaign about childhood obesity and trying to fight that. but he does love cheeseburgers an he has a weakness for pie. one of the things that happened when he came to the white house is they have a very great pace industry chef there. it became a big problem so they had to separate. >> don't you love that inside stuff? of course, the president also gets some regular exercise though, including basketball. axlerod told leno basketball led to one of his worst moments of the campaign. he accidentally hit the president on his nose during a game hours before a presidential debate. but fortunately, he was able to recover very quickly. fast food fight. it's no longer over, burgers. it is a battle over breakfast. vera gibbons gives up the details next on msnbc saturday. that's what happened to me. they said the quick thinking of chewing an aspirin probably kept me alive while i was on the plane. i'm on an aspirin regimen now. my doctor told me it's the easiest preventative thing you can do. 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>> it doesn't take much to make it profitable. open a little bit earlier and come out with creative offerings that don't break the bank. denny's is in the game now. they're out with new breakfast items. subway's in the game, too. they're new to this whole market. java juice with oatmeal. taco bell potentially rolling out breakfast items. they all want a piece of the action. >> burger king's having some sort of a kid's brunch menu? >> yeah. remember a couple months ago we talked about their burgers and their beer menus? they were rolling that out in various tourist destinations. now they're out with a brunch menu. the idea is to separate themselves from the pack so they're going to sell a non-alcoholic mimosa, which sounds kind of interesting, and a special sandwich, ham, bacon, cheese in a smokey sauce. that's $2.99, the mimosa is $1.99. they're trying to separate themselves from the fak atpack price point that's not going to break the bank. by september, 7,000 burger kings are going to team one seattle's best, which is owned by starbucks. the idea is to give mcdonald's a run for the money because mcdonald's has been very successful with their coffee. seattle's best. but priced very well, $1 to 2 hadn2$.79. i know you like iced coffees. it is turning out to be a stormy saturday for people in the south but how severe is the weather getting. bill karins joins us in just a moment on vera's birthday saturday on msnbc saturday. it is msnbc saturday. i'm alex witt. half past the hour, here are your fast five headlines. growing concern in the northwest about an airborne fungus that has killed almost two dozen people. it first showed up in oregon, it's now spread to washington state and california. doctors say there is no vaccine against that fungus that's infected at least 200 people. a new fight by a mexican-american group over the new law signed in law. the dow gained 70 points yesterday to cap the eighth straight weekly rise. the fdic takes over seven more failed banks. the fdic chairman predicts the number of bank failures will r surpass last year's total. about 100 hand grenades were detonated found on a sea floor in clam cages. the plant was evacuated until the bombs could be hauled away. we've been watching this dangerous weather and all the developments right now. a possible tornado outbreak expected this afternoon in various southern states but tornado aren't the only threat. severe rain and storms with large chunks of hail are also expected. for the latest, i'm joined by nbc meteorologist bill karins. what's the latest? >> just heard we have our first confirmation of tornadoes this morning. it occurred just outside of mer are ini meridian, mississippi. three miles southwest. doesn't appear the tornado went through the downtown of the city of meridian but in the outskirts. we'll have numerous reports like that during the day today. this is a wide outbreak. it is just really beginning. up to this point we've had severe weather but it hasn't been that bad. now is when we really get into the late morning, into the afternoon that the worst of it will occur. tornado watches cover much of alabama, mississippi, and notice from new orleans down through mobile. we'll probably have tornado watches spreading northward possibly into kentucky later on today and also in areas of georgia and north florida. where i was talking about, meridian, mississippi, right through alabama, including montgomery, birmingham, tuscaloosa, northward, chattanooga and just about into nashville. that's where the worst of it should be today. if you live there, watch the forecast and listen for tornado sirens today or if you have family there, call them to make sure they know what the potential is. by tomorrow, all of this begins to head out during the day. there will be some rough storms overnight in areas of the carolinas, north carolina and georgia. tomorrow afternoon those storms will be gone. the latest is just outside meridian, mississippi, first reports of a confirmed tornado. >> heads up to everyone, this is a fast-moving storm. bill karins, thank you. check in with weather.com all weekend long for the latest weather updates in your area. an oregon man will receive $18.5 million from the boy scouts of america in a sexual abuse case. the money was awarded in punitive damages from six occasions of sex abuse he suffered by a scout master. lewis spoke about how he felt after that verdict was handed down. >> i don't know if i exactly have closure yet. i have a long road ahead of me still. but it's a huge jumping point. huge start for me. as long as i was able to help one person, this is all well worth it. >> the multi-million dollar case was the largest ever against the boy scouts. a tough new law targeting illegal immigrants in arizona is now on track to take effect this summer after the state's governor signed the measure. two advocacy groups say they're ready to fight it in court. law will make it a crime to be in the country illegally an require police to question people about their immigration status if there is reason to suspect they are illegal immigrants. let's bring in our panel to weigh in. bob dane, spokesman for the federation of american immigration reform. frank sherry, founder and executive corredirector of amer voice. bob, your reaction to the arizona governor signing this bill into law yesterday. >> look, long overdue. this was not a knee-jerk reaction by arizona. this was years of careful legal analysis. it was decade of escalating illegal immigration and violence. i think most importantly, decade of arizonans actually just pleading for some type of relief. this is a no-nonsense, commonsense, reaction to the inaction in washington. mexico ends where arizona begins. and unfortunately, in arizona, illegal immigration means crime, drugs, and kidnapping. >> frank's got the opposite reaction. i can tell. >> look, border security, border violence, serious issues, they need to be dealt with starting with congress and enacting comprehensive immigration reform. but this arizona law is a radical law that hearkens back to the jim crow era. they say it is about controlling immigration? they have put a target on the back of 30% of the arizonan population that's hispanic. any hispanic at a picnic, a little league game, a church social, who encounters a policeman, the policeman is supposed to ask if he has a reasonable suspicion and the hispanic's going to have to produce papers? that is un-american and unconstitutional. >> bob, i have a question. if this is all at the whim of police to enforce this to stop people and ask them about their immigration status, what kind of broad authority does this give law enforcement and isn't the potential for the abuse of power gre greater? >> first, using little leagues as an example is -- you just are whipping up the hysteria. there is a mass misinformation campaign about this. here's what the law is fully predicated on. the protections afforded under the fourth amendment, the right of persons to be secure in their houses, papers and effects. here's what the law is not going to do. the law does not in arizona allow police officers to do -- to have any additional reason to stop you or to pull you over. you still -- the police will still have to have lawful conduct. in other words, if you're speeding, they'll pull you over. the law also does not allow police officers to immediately inquire about immigration status. look, here's what happens all of the time in arizona. they'll pull over a van with 14 people in it. no one has a driver's license. there's no social security numbers. the best maybe you get out of a van is a mexican consulate card or costco card. at that point the law does take effect. why? because common sense an public safety in arizona would dictate that the officer ought to be able to act on that. >> now, bob, don't you worry about people being stopped who have no reason to be stopped and all sorts of civil rights violations and this just kind of mushrooming into a storm or storm cloud that is just going to run rampant through the state of arizona? >> what's running rampant through arizona is 500,000 illegal aliens at a cost to the state of $1.8 billion a year. >> okay. frank, can we get your reaction to the "l.a. times" poll saying 70% of arizona residents support this law? with that kind of support, is arizona being proactive in an area where the federal government hasn't been? >> look, arizonans are frustrated. americans are frustrated then want their leaders to step up and solve this problem but there is a right way and a wrong way. the arizona law is the wrong way. the right way is for congress to step up to pass comprehensive immigration reform that secures the border, cracks down on illegal hiring and makes sure that people here illegally get in the system, get right with the law, pay their taxes, learn english and work toward citizenship. that's the kind of solution that 80% of the american people support. arizonans are frustrated, but this law is the wrong wra ay to deal with it. going after illegal immigration, they've just gone after 30% of their own population and this will be a sad day for arizona going forward. >> can i ask a final very quick question? a yes or no answer from you, bob. do you believe this should be done on the federal level as opposed to the state level where any given state can impose its own laws? >> the arizona law is based in philosophy on attrition through enforcement making it hard to live and work in arizona if you have no legal right to be there. so it is a good -- >> would it be better to do this from a federal perspective instead of state by state? >> look, the big immigration story this past year since the obama administration took over has been the steady, steltthy dismantling. what option did arizona have? >> bob, can i just ask you for a yes or no answer, please? would it be better to do it on a federal level than state by state. >> it is not an either/or proposition. >> bob and frank, thanks so much. he could go to prison for up to 50 years if he's convicted of breaking into sarah palin's e-mail account. is that too excessive or just right? you're watching msnbc saturday. i have big news for everybody with frequent heartburn. let me show you. there's a new 24-hour heartburn formula that's different. it's called zegerid otc. only zegerid otc has both prescription strength-medicine and a special ingredient to allow its powerful medicine to be quickly absorbed. zegerid otc controls and suppresses acid all day and all night. there's a brilliant new idea in heartburn relief. new zegerid otc. discover the difference. black one! where? 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(announcer) for a free trial offer call 1-800-4-boniva or visit boniva.com ceremony testify. sarah palin commented on the alleged crime. >> when you illegally hack into somebody's personal, private mailbox and disclose the contents to the world, that's not right, it's not legal. it's not fair or decent. >> joining me now, a criminal defense attorney, mario galucci. good morning. this krenell guy faces 50 years in prison if he's convicted of these charges. would that punishment fit the crime? >> not at all, not in a case like this. it is important we try to ptempr justice evenly. if some other person had hacked in someone's account, they wouldn't be looking at 50 years in jail. i believe they're making an example out of this young man because he hakd into a vice presidential candidate's e-mail account. >> were there any national security questions potentially here given the person whom he ha hacked into, a vice presidential candidate for the united states? >> that's actually the point. how does a vice presidential candidate of the united states have an e-mail account that's not secure and allow somebody from basically a college to be able to hack into it? >> well, i do want to tell people how that happened. he broke into it by -- he answered a series of questions, birthday, zip code where she lives, where she met her husband. so that is all public information. >> it is public information but the fact that he broke in to the account is the crime. how he broke into the account doesn't really matter. >> so let's say you're defense attorney here. the fact that he broke into the account, that is not up for question. they say the reason for doing it, that it was just a prank, is. but isn't he already guilty of the crimes he's been charged of and admittedly so? >> i think his attorney is trying to say that this was nothing more than a prank, there was no problem with national security. this is a college student who thought he would be funny if he could break into a vice presidential candidate's account. so i guess he's looking for jury sympathy and hopefully he gets it. >> to that point, apparently this is a conservative area. it is knoxville, tennessee. the ap reports that when sarah palin was in there, they noted several of the jurors smiling at her. might they be dazzled by star power and what, if so, as a defense attorney do you do about that. >> well absolutely. he's going up against a celebrity in sarah palin. it is up to his defense attorney to make that argument, that you should not be swayed by the fact that this is sarah palin in here testifying, that if anybody else similarly situated would have been charged with the same crime, then the punishment wouldn't be the same. >> mario gallucci, thank you very much. a 12-year-old long island girl saved her friend but she's giving credit to the cartoon character sponge bab square pants for it. she was in music class when her friend started choking on a piece of gum. she had seen spongebob save choking victims before. >> i turned around, i did the heimlich and i had no idea what i was doing until it was like done. throughout that whole process i was like, okay, channel spongebob. >> channeled spongebob. okay. the gum popped right out of allison's mouth soon after miriam began the heimlich. rock singer and reality tv star bret michaels is in critical condition this morning after suffering a brain hemorrhage. julia allison with our correspondent for new york city's "nonstop." this is a tough story. >> his publicists have confirmed reports that the poison frontman was taken to the hospital in intensive care late thursday afternoon. they found that there was bleeding at the base of his brain stem. his father has said that he is, although in a serious condition, he's doing as well as can be expected with something this serious. >> this is a guy who also had surgery last week. he had emergency surgery. right? >> yes. he had an appendectomy. it was done at a private facility because he had complained of stomach pains. no word on whether that is related to this recent crisis. >> are people really talking about this, concerned about this? >> yes. bret michaels is really a poster boy -- or poster man at this point for a second-run career for a former star. he was a nashville singer judge. he was on "rock of love" for two years. his most recent foray into the "celebrity apprentice." donald trump obviously gave a statement saying that he was concerned about bret and said he was a champion. >> we wish him well. hope his recovery is swift and speedy. with regard to somebody else in the news, j. lo. >> she's back. >> she never really been off in some ways. but being at the top of her game at 40 years old? >> she took off five years from movie making to focus on baby making with mark anthony. she had her twins. now she's back after a hiatus with her film "the backup plan." and it does look like it will be number one at the box office. j. lo is well known for being competent in romantic comedies. but the critics are panning it a bit. that having been said, she's made over $720 million in the films that she's appeared in, request "the wedding planner," to "made in manhattan," to "shall we dance." >> she's pretty bankable. >> she is very bankable. she's the number one latin american actress in hollywood. that's something to be said. >> absolutely. she looks great. >> she's lost 50 pounds. 50 pounds! >> you go, j. lo. >> i want to know who your trainer is. >> thank you. money makeovers. the dollar do-over also includes favorite lifts of our founding our founding fathers. high litting the nips and tucks and maybe a chemical peel. [ female announcer ] it's rollback time at walmart. right now, walmart has rolled back prices on top lawn care brands like poulan pro, brute by briggs & stratton, pennington, scotts and spectracide. along with thousands of others all over the store. it's rollback time! save money. live better. walmart. economic headlines, the dow jones industrial average is in the middle of the longest winning streak in six years, finishing up for eight weeks that row. new home sales climbed 27% in march. that's the biggest one-month gain in 47 years. it's a good sign that investors are gaining confidence. not all good news, the fdic shut down seven more banks in illinois which makes for a total of 57 failed banks in the country this year. more banks are expected to close this year than they did last year in 2009. every few years the bureau of printing and engraving designs new dollar bills to ward on counterfeiting attempts. they unveiled the new 100 dollar bill which features technology like a 3-d security ribbon. cosmetic improvements as well and yes, i mean the faces on the bills. is this a reflection of the importance of beauty in more than society? joining me now for a closer look, dr. david gettal go. why do they make cosmetic changes to the faces of dollar bills? >> i'm not so sure we did. i think we lost have quality in the new version that's have come out. >> do you think redesigning the face part is a security process? >> i don't think so. i don't know the technical issues involved in that, but i don't think altering the image as much as they have is that important. >> do you think this suggests something about our society it looks closer glamour than 20 years ago? >> i don't think it does the founding fathers any justice to do this to them, quite honestly. >> let's look at some example and see if you can back this up. grant on the $50 bill, the redesign in 1997 center there, and then on the far right, 2004. talk about what you see is the difference. >> he has come off better than some of the other ones. for example, they lighten the angry look between his eyebrows as if he was given botox. they cleaned up his eyebrows and done subtle eyelid changes. he looks lean and fit compared to the more hagerred look on the far left. >> what about the ben franklin bill, $100 bill, out there since 1929? >> they made the least aggressive changes with benjamin franklin. they filled in the hair around his temples a little bit more and darkened the color. there's even a suggestion that they cleaned up his chin under his neck a little bit. put him in a flattering outfit. >> what about abraham lincoln, the far left is the original design. moving from there to 2006, which is all the way on the right. >> i like the character in the original the best. i think we've lost a bill bit of that. the engaving process is changed. his skin has a better complex gs as if he had a facial peel. they made changes in his nose, made it straighter and raised the tip and trimmed his beard. it's -- he's a cleaner version of what he was on the far left. we lost a lot of character in the process. >> you were saying earlier, you like the original, $1 bill, george washington. >> i think it's our very best image presently. >> hasn't been too much tampered with through the years? >> no, it doesn't. >> david, thanks for weighing in. that's a wrap of our live msnbc saturday coverage. do stay with us we have headline updates and breaking news as it happens. i'm alex witt, i'll look for you tomorrow morning 8:00 eastern until 12 noon eastern. have a great day. if you're on the east coast, get outside. tomorrow is not going to be as nice as we give you a look at central park there. somewhere in america... the slightest breeze harbors immense power. the tallest buildings leave the lightest footprints.
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