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i think that opens the door for a private conversation and if that private conversation does not work, it certainly opens the door for another public call for the governor's resignation. not only not having the political support of democrats in the state but not having national political support. who would want to stand and take a photo with governor cuomo right now? that's my question as a politician. >> well, i mean, i don't know if it is fair, let me ask you this, his people may say look what happened to ralph northam, the democratic party told him to resign, he didn't, and now look where he is at. governor northam showed a lot of remorse for what he was accused of. i didn't hear that from cuomo. >> not at all. governor cuomo was defiant, essentially challenged the

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