>> reporter: what will be the tell of the meetings he will have? what is he actively seeking? >> the second defense ministerial in light of this issue comes at a critical time here. two weeks, that would be more -- three weeks into this conflict and i don't know what things are going to look like next week, but obviously we can expect the defense ministers to talk seriously about what nato is doing to better shore up its defenses and making sure that we all have a common sight picture of the threat environment and what needs to be done again to meet our article 5 commitments. >> reporter: is there an agenda -- is there something specifically that tops the agenda with regard to ukraine? >> i would let nato and the secretary general speak to that, and it's defense ministerial,