overturn a presidential election and suggests he would pardon january 6th participants." there are plenty who agree with cheney and others who want to ignore. as much as you'd hear in private, those voices are few and far between. our own peter nicholas is covering the rnc leader in salt lake city. he's been reporting on the quiet part that doesn't get said out loud. peter, let's talk about that because i hear it, too. boy, i don't know, talking about 2020 is a bad idea but in public it's all they're doing. >> that's right. we spoke to tom state party chairmen and rnc members, they're pretty clear, discussing 2020 is not a winning issue. the election fraud issue does not resonate with voters. successful candidates like