growth and rapid acceleration across iraq and syria. this is a -- isis is not the threat of the same significant nature they were back then. but they still remain a viable threat. we've talked about that many times, that this is a group that wants to reconstitute its strength, wants to continue to attack and kill and maim and terrorize. and haji abdullah was very much involved in trying to resuscitate the group and to grow their capabilities. they remain a threat to us, our national security, and the lives of innocents. as the secretary said today, we're going to stay at it. >> hi, john. thanks. a couple quick questions. first, on the efforts to get civilians out of the building, you said that they had to call it out to them with a bull horn.