and what president biden has done already in his appointments to the lower courts is he sort of broadened the professional background, federal public defenders are getting on the bench. that wasn't the case. private practitioners who did civil rights work are on the bench. that wasn't so often the case. so before we even get to issues, i think looking at people's diversity, not just as demographic diversity but diversity in life experience and their professional careers are really important. >> let me ask you about the state of the democratic party, the state of the democratic senate and how's everybody getting along. is this an opportunity to sort of calm the waters? do you view this as an opportunity to sort of lower the temperature, maybe build back better can get negotiated without everybody watching, while everybody's attention is on this? is this a useful interruption, if you will? >> you said it better than i would have. really, i was really