modernize the ports and that includes railways like at the port of long beach. really the supply chain issues, although the holiday season has passed, continue to be very challenging. i actually asked secretary buttigieg exactly when this will end. he says he doesn't have a crystal ball and this is more of what he said to me. so, if you were to explain to a shopper where the biggest pain point is right now, is it here at the ports? is it on the railways? is it in the warehouses? where is it? >> the truth is if you see a ship off shore here waiting for a chance to unload its goods, there's a good chance the reasons have to do with something 1,000 miles inland like an issue with labor capacity in trucking. right now we have something like 300,000 truck drivers leaving that job every single year. >> i asked him then how much should truckers be paid to attract truckers back on to the roadways and he says that truckers ought to be paid for