stabbed with flag poles. the importance of this is showing what happened behind the scenes versus what people are touting on television today. especially on fox news and other punditry, conservative sites where people say january 6th wasn't violent. we weren't worried about it. it wasn't serious. this evidence shows they all believed it was very violent, very serious, and that the president at the time, donald trump, really did nothing when they were crying for his help. >> carol, it's such an important point, and carlos, i want to have you react to that, and also the fact that in the immediate aftermath of the attack on the capitol, you did have a number of republican lawmakers pushing back on former president trump. lindsey graham, kevin mccarthy, and they changed their tune in the weeks and months following that. what does it say about how much of an impact the former