tight time frame to get this done before the september 27th date to pass the infrastructure bill. >> by the way, preconferencing is the next washington vocabulary word, housework is run by the senate before they finish to make sure everyone is on the same page rather than after the fact. president biden met yesterday with manchin and sinema, didn't get much readout from the senators involved. do you know anything more about how it went and how is the white house looking at those two holdouts, is this a target for the president to lean on, are they taking this off to reproach? give us a sense how they're viewing this. >> reporter: there's been no shortage of calls between the president and senator manchin and sinema. it is a running theme that's ongoing in the white house. you ask administration officials about it, they essentially chuckle and say yes, the