states, and so that will make them sit up and notice and may give them the political will that's needed to wrestle with some of these really hard issues and do some things to strengthen our posture here. >> look, it's pretty clear that there's a whole of government approach that's necessary. obviously the russians are trying to take advantage -- are bad actors here, either as a government or as a government over, you know, deciding not to deal with these gangs. on the other hand, the government has a duty that protects its citizens from this day-to-day ransomware. it's like we're allowing -- it's like bank robbery is happening every day, and we don't have the tools to stop these small-time bank robbers because we can't, you know, we can't track the money they steal, right? we can't put -- it's not like ink's going to blow up on them when they get their bitcoin. you know, i understand coming up