supposition. oh, this person is coming from this person, et cetera. i think they all feed off each other because the voters are still deciding. one thing you want to pick up, the vice presidential sweepstakes. >> what sweepstakes? every time i open the envelope, it says stacy abrams. >> an african-american or person of color. there are four people, kamala harris, who willian castro, they're considering who the front-runners are. one of them has to be the vice president. >> what you're saying is elizabeth warren can't pick another woman? >> elizabeth warren, pete buttigieg, they all need a woman or a person of color on their ticket. >> do you think elizabeth warren could pick another woman? >> i think it is unlikely. to his point, there have been conversations between warren's camp and andrew gillum's camp in florida that were the type of communication out would expect for someone being eyed as a vice presidential choice.