you're reading the quote. yes. >> okay. now, the president and some of his defenders here have tried to excuse his misconduct by pointing to statements from the ukraine president that he was not under pressure touk give in president trump's demand. did your investigative committees consider those statements by president zelensky? >> we did. and we found that the statements of what is, effectively, an extortion victim are not particularlyrt relevant to the actual truth of the matter because president zelensky cannot, in reality, for the same reasons that he's -- he interpreted the request to be a demand -- he can't go out and say that he did feel pressure because thatfe would, potential, upset president trump. and they're so dependent on the relationship with president trump and the united states. >> one could almost say it's similar to a hostage testifying under duress. >> it is certainly a -- a duress would be a good word. >> so when the president made these statements, and up to and