spoken hato, to form the basis the complaint. we have not been able to piece together all those people. and talking to all those people is important. and there's a lot of them -- i'm running out ofhe time here. but, you know, there's a reference to lutsenko in the whistle-blower complaint. where witnesses have told us it's likelyse shokin. vindman and morrison's testimony about why they went to talk to the lawyers. very different reasons.ey >> the gentleman's time has expired. >> i don't believe he was on the call. >> mr. goldman, as a member of the intelligence committee, i saw significant firsthand evidence that president trump conditioned our military aid on ukraine announcing investigations into the 2016 election and the bidens. and betrayed our national security interest in the process. for example, ambassador sondland told us that once the ukrainians found out about the aid being