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much of anything else. people are afraid of the idea of losing their private health insurance. they're afraid of the idea of taxes going up on everybody. and it's not -- >> just hoping that maybe she didn't really want to do it and she was just saying it? >> well, that. or that she wouldn't come out with all of the details on how much it's going to cost to pay for it. you know, maybe she could have fudged it and been more trumping about it and just said i'm going to give you this and i don't have to tell you how. but she's not like that. she is a plan person. and she gave the plan and it is hurt her. i think this was always going to happen when elizabeth warren set out to out bernie sanders. and she's done that in the primary and it's taken a toll and it's obviously benefitted biden. it's benefitted buttigieg. and dropping from 28 to 14 in one poll. i don't remember ever seeing that. >> but there is something else. i mean, yes, the healthcare plan she put out there. $52 trillion. it's crazy for most people to

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