precedent it sets. they're thinking about, what does this mean for me politically. so far he has hung on to the base of the republican party and with very few defections. that may change, but right now i think that's a correct assessment by the white house, that they've got the senate tied up in a way that will protect the president from actually being removed from office. >> i think the two variables, ned, would, in my guess, drawing on my past sort of in republican politics, would be public opinion, should you see attacks on colonel vindman inching this from 51% support to 53, 54, 55. and the second, more big time statewide electoral defeats in red, red, red parts of the country. >> potentially. at the same time, though, throughout his presidency, donald trump has been talking to 30, 35% of the country. i think as long as that 35% is with him, i think you see them