allow them to win the presidency. i don't know the answer. politics and things in politics do change. but between those polls and polls of actually policy prescriptions that are in the field, thing is a real chance that democrats have taken a big risk, warren and sanders in attaching themselves to ideas that most voters don't like. and the way they win elections is oppose things that voters like. >> is biden looking at the poll and saying this is the argument we need to make to the american public? >> yes, but biden should not sit back and say i'm in first, i'm saying in first and it's fine. you still don't have the guaranteed turnout of the black vote you're going to need not just to win the primary, but also to win the general election. i think no one should be sitting at home and thinking they have it in the bag. if you're not waking up and thinking every single day did i give a black person a reason to show up on election day? if you're not thinking that before you leave your house to go into hq, you're doing it wrong. >> zerlina maxwell, as always,