in the president's ear and have him change his mind on this, or is it already too late? is there a way to mitt game sig of the con consequences going forward? >> there's potential to mitigate. we've seen it happen in the past where he has reversed course or he has softened his language, which has allowed the defense department, state department, to then begin to take actions to -- to help the situation. >> what do we do in the future, evelyn, when we need help again fighting against isis? >> well, i think it's going to be really hard, katy, to convince kurds or other forces to work with us, to help us achieve our objectives, if we are shown to be unreliable, and by the way, this is not going to be an issue just fur stateless fighters like the kurds, because you look at our allies in israel and elsewhere, israel, first and foremost, because they're close, getting nervous. you know, what kind of ally and partner is the united states