combines those two things. it would be a very delicate negotiation and exercise in coalition-building. i haven't seen this president able to do that before. and so this would have to be the first time. >> i think he's asked for something like 14 different proposals from folks around him for a gun legislation plan. so -- >> i get the sense he personally would like to say he signed a background check bill but somebody said you're not going to get any credit for it from the people you want the credit for it. >> ted cruz said if we do this, if we pass a background check bill in a 2020 election, it's going to demotivate conservatives. i actually think trump, or his people were hoping ted cruz would say that so now they have an excuse not to do anything. >> i think that's the decision that's been made. thank you. there's nothing like a post-debate panel. up ahead, why i'm obsessed with the deafening sound of silence. first, here's cory booker and food for thought. >> senator booker, let me ask