here, that's going to be the big sticking point. >> i think it's on policy. stephanie, the public has spoken whether it's australia's public, france's public, washington state. the carbon tax isn't going to be the right way to do this. we're going to have to as a policy come up with another way to find the money. >> another way to find the money, but also marshall across sectors and communities to move it forward. the wrong way to do it is. >> you know, part of the reason oil and gas liked the methane rule that the president rolled back today is because it is one of the most effective ways to reduce greenhouse gases and it's cost efficient. they know if we're not reducing methane gas, what's the next thing? it's natural gas. >> this is a good business for them. they are not doing this out of the goodness of their heart. >> i was just on the way over today, i was just doing some research on the number of rules the president has overturned that are related to reducing