african americans engaged in this process. >> can i ask, the president and the vice president both have been in south carolina, both are going back, i think, before the primary. this is the first primary of the democratic cycle this time, because of course, president biden moved it from new hampshire. why is there so much time? is there a word that something's happening that could embarrass them in terms of the primary, because they don't seem to have significant competition. and yet they're spending love time there. >> the man who raised his hand and said biden shall be president, will you go to south carolina? >> i've known joe biden a long time. i know him at a very personal level. he and i have had conversations that i will take to agree with me. i'm talking about being the vice president, we talked a lot. and one other thing that he's very concerned about is anybody ever feeling that he's taking