so much as biden would like to continue his policy, if it turns out congress does not renew that, i think the message to the allies around the world will be, even if you have a democrat who supported ukraine aid in the oval office, it may not make that big of a difference. and this is going to be the real test i think of americans. >> white house and national security correspondent for the new york times, david sanger, thank you so much. his new book is out tomorrow entitled "new cold war's, china's rise come russia's invasion and america's struggled to defend the west." it is an important book. you can preorder it now. thank you very much. coming up, our friend and colleague chris hayes joins the conversation. we will be right back!