attack. former president donald trump. a series of monumental decisions of the supreme court will also be front of line for so many voters this november. none greater than the unprecedented decision to overturn almost a half century of privacy rights in roe v. wade. coming up, we're going to be joined by georgia's democratic nominee for governor stacey abrams. she's going to talk about everything that is on the line this fall. first, let's bring in an incredible roundtable. we have the former chairman of the republican national committee, michael still, former white house press secretary and the president obama, robert gibbs, host of msnbc's politicsnation and president of the national action network, reverend al sharpton. former aide to the george w. bush white house and state department, elise jordan, former white house director of communication shear to president obama and director of communications for hillary clinton 2016, presidential campaign, jennifer palmieri. let's start with you. he ran the rnc. i need you to explain something to me. how could it be that the republicans have, i would say, the best environments. if you look at the leading economic indicators right now, as they've had since ronald reagan's massive eatery in 1980 and yet, look at the senate races. they're behind and all the key states. they're behind in pennsylvania. they're behind in ohio. there are behind in georgia. their candidates, talk about the league of indicator, republican candidates are getting wiped out and when you look at the money that both sides are raising. what is happening out there? >> nothing there are a couple of things that are coming into focus as we get ourselves through the mid point in the primary season. we still at this point have a number of primaries left. on the ballot you have a lot of candidates that have been pushed up and forward by a hardened right fascist based. they are about owning the lips. a revenge politics. that was stoked and fermented by donald trump. and in what's happened in essence, mitch mcconnell has the biggest -- they've lost control of the process. unlike when i was facing in 2010 when i had to deal with the candidate of the worst thing she was saying was i am not a witch. today's republican party has to deal with candidates who literally believe that president biden is an illegitimate president and should be thrown out of office. >> yes, also a base that still believes and all the lies. all the election lies and a lot of candidates won't come out and criticize january 6th. elise, i always tell the story when i talk about the political impact of this abortion decision, and wet it may do in the 2022 election. i always talk about your georgia focus group of trump republicans. man, a follow donald trump on every issue. one of the people you were talking to, let's be blunt, had bought into so many conspiracy theories. you said, what about role? should roe be overturned? before the decision was overturned he said, wait, what are you talking about? i am a man. that is not up to me to decide. i've heard so many republicans, so many lifelong conservatives. so many people that actually consider themselves to be pro-life. they look at the supreme court decision. they look at thomas's concurrence. they look at privacy rights under attack right now. they look at a ten-year-old girl having to flee her home state because she's going to have -- the states going to force her to carry full term her rapists baby. they look at the state of texas fighting the federal government, because they want the right for mothers to die on the operating table and for the federal government not to protect them. my god, it seems this radical republican party is chasing away a lot of the dependents, a lot of swing voters with these policies. >> joe, in the voter that you are talking about in georgia, he identified as pro-life. there are plenty of republican voters who identify as pro life, that does not necessarily mean that they want abortion banned outright. and the race, the cycle that i've been watching is what's going to happen in pennsylvania? the republican nominee doug mast randall, who was a march around january 6th and part of the insurrection he said that if he wins he is immediately going to ban abortions in pennsylvania. the fifth largest state in the country. a very purple state, i would say. so has that actually going to help or hurt the down ballot candidates like doctor oz? is he going to be lumped in. are there going to be enough independent voters where it does give democrats an advantage in a state like pennsylvania, where abortion really could be sitting on the ballot? jim palmieri, abortion, we've talked about the abortion ruling. we've talked about how it's definitely going to impact republicans with suburban moms, with suburban women. with college education -- whatever we want to call the swing voters. the women swing voters in the atlanta suburbs. the philly suburbs, and the i-four corridor. yet, there's another side to that story, isn't there? an older hispanic voter may actually move the republican party swing because this decision, it has put a lot of cross currents in the political waters, hasn't it? >> there's not a blueprint for this kind of in terms in the post trump world. all of the normal midterm rules go out the window. we have a decision like when it comes down to, a look at the candidate like gretchen whitmer, she has gone all in on abortion. starting from earlier this year when she filed a lawsuit about it. some people have already made their decision. we are going all in. it is not -- even though there might be culturally hispanic voters, could be more conservative, it's certainly been my experience. in presidential campaigns. i think when i look at, if i'm running a race and i'm looking at voters of color, hispanic, api, they're walking away from democrats and in. a very disturbing way. i suspect that's about inflation. i suspect it's about the economy. these are the people that are most affected by that. i think for democrats you're probably going to look at running the race where you need to. do you immediately need to on abortion, but you've got to do the basic economic issues first. at >> reverend, that's something you've talked about. for many years. we've talked about this for many years. the democrats have long considered, especially white woke democrats, have long believed that people of color, black voters, hispanic voters are just as progressive and just as woke as them. you have been saying all along that the latte liberals, as you call them, have it all wrong. you know look at joe biden's polling numbers. he is bleeding support from black voters. massive support from hispanic voters. do you think it may be because of this disconnect between the democratic establishment, washington, d.c., and where people of color live politically? >> certainly a lot of it is that when you look at the fact that it seems that a lot of those in the democratic party leadership praying to quite those that are noisy rather than deal with their base load -- they're concerned about inflation, about crime going up in many areas. they're concerned about issues like roe v. wade. and they're concerned about policing and other issues and i think that would have seemingly bothered me a lot is that this tendency of whoever yells the loudest, that's who they're dealing with, rather than understanding they don't represent the overwhelming majority of the people that you need to come out and vote. one of the things that i've seen is that democratic candidates, presidents were more effective when they knew how to compartmentalize the noise makers along with those that or -- president obama was very good at that. even clinton to some degree. and i think that what we've seen, even those of us that made noise understood we were trying to get attention on certain issues. we are looking at something -- where just the noise makers are being hurt by some of the leadership in the party rather than understand, i have a point of view we need to hear but we've got to deal with the mass base, and i think that they've become captive of their own noise makers which is to their detriment. >> you know, robert, we are always seeing political analysis coming on the show, coming on every show, looking at the last election results and talking about how this is the future of the republic, the political future. it's cast in stone, of course. 2008 we heard about that emerging permanent democratic majority. 2010, it was a tea party. and in 2012 after president obama won another massive victory, we heard everybody talking about that blue wall. that democrats had set up for the electoral college and there was no way republicans would ever win electoral college again. there was a blue wall that predicted democratic candidates. i want to ask you about three states. i find it to be the most fascinating, most perplexing since president obama left office in 2016. wisconsin, michigan, and pennsylvania. those are three states that i always called fools gold for republicans, because they would always throw money to those three states. other than michigan it seemed like they always lost. now you go county by county. let's go put iowa in there to. county by county. president obama did so well. in a lot of counties where he may have lost a county, but instead of losing it by 60 points he lose it by 30 points. you added that up and he and the industrial midwest. what has happened to the democratic party's lack of the industrial midwest? >> it's a great question, joe. i think what you've seen and you saw this with the acceleration starting in the 2014 election. in the advent of donald trump in 2015 and 2016 is, he was really able to capture those non-college, particularly non-college white voters that democrats and particularly president obama had done well with and many of those upper midwestern states. we see this even now national polling. the democratic party is now aligned with voters that are college educated. the republicans with non-college educated voters. i think you have seen that you could throw in ohio in a state that president obama won twice that now feels potentially out of the grass with democrats for quite some time, despite having a great senate candidate there. i think even really seen voters that have been talked to about their fears and concerns, but also their economic anxieties in a way that has changed the fortunes for the republican party, particularly in the rural areas of those states. >> i want to ask you about the same three states. hey look at some of the races right now. tim ryan is looking pretty good in ohio. right now, gretchen whitmer is looking pretty good in michigan. at the end of the day, and of course, fetterman in pennsylvania. that's not only looking pretty good, but my god, the ads that he keeps throwing. the tweets that he keeps throwing. doctor oz his way. i mean, it's dizzying, keeping him off balance every single day. i'm curious. does this tell you that at the end of the day so much just depends on the candidate herself or himself who is the best political athlete? >> this is a clear advantage that democrats have across the board in a historically difficult year. it's to have very good candidates. particularly in michigan, very good candidates. a ton of money. democrats have pretty much -- the gubernatorial candidates are outracing the republican counterparts across the board. and michigan and pennsylvania, you have to really great stars that are very well seated from the states that day. they're running and with both whitmer and fetterman. i mean, i've never seen anybody have so much fun. as fetterman campaign. the other thing, so i think that a few months ago, he had whitmer and fetterman who were in a tough spot, but abortion, jen six, and guns, or maybe marginal issues, but there may be marginal issues that get those two candidates over the top. >> coming up next, how republicans may just managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. with some of the extreme candidates to parties nominated in key races. our special look at the critical midterm elections now just 100 days away continues after a short break. continues after a short break. after a short break. high cholesterol. heart disease. 17 fad diets... 5 kids... 3 grandkids... 1 heart attack. and 18 passwords that seem to change daily. with leqvio, john can lower his cholesterol— and so can you. when taken with a statin, leqvio is proven to lower bad cholesterol by over 50% and keep it low with two doses a year. common side effects of leqvio were injection site reaction, joint pain, urinary tract infection, diarrhea, chest cold, pain in legs or arms, and shortness of breath. with leqvio, lowering cholesterol becomes just one more thing life throws your way. ask your doctor if leqvio is right for you. lower. longer. leqvio. 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usually, in the voting booth, right? >> it does, and it has. and i think in large measure, it will. i think they're dynamics, political crosscurrents that i know, and i'm sure you know from your conversation with a number of republicans, but a lot of the leadership did not one to be in play this fall. they did not want to go into the small having a discussion about abortion. they didn't go into this wall having a discussion about guns. and now, here we are, very unhappy that a number of the conservative states, mississippi, included, pushing forward abortion legislation that they knew would wound up in from the supreme court. so, here we are. and now, the leadership is hammered by candidates who are so whacked out. the voters are looking and saying, i can do that. and policy positions that are untenable for a lot of republicans to, you know, try to take advantage of. >> michael steele, thank you so much. gritty appreciate you being with us. i just want to ask, jen, that elise said she was looking closely in pennsylvania, that's gonna be a fascinating race. what's race are you looking at? >> michigan. i mean, i just -- i think that whitmer, if she wins, she can prove the concept of how you make your own weather, right? i think she has a very distinct brand. and at times, in michigan, that has been to her detriment. but she has been able to separate from biden more easily than others. i mean, i'm sorry to say it, but the presidential numbers are so low. democrats are able to separate from him, relatively easily. you need candidates that are just running the fast race that they can with the best, with the message that's going to work in their favor, whether they are a challenger, or incumbent like whitmer. but if she can come back, you know, tony everest may have a harder time in wisconsin in reelection. select in about a may have a harder time winning reelection. they haven't done that kind of work that she's done to really define herself, have her own agenda, have her own record. and just, constantly hammering it. she gets a lot of blow back. but, you know, i think that's the price of admission in winning in a tough midterm. >> elise, what about the key issue for you in 2022? >> donald trump. is he going to motivate democratic voters? i mean, that is just the gift that democrats are waiting on. and coupled with abortion, coupled with guns, and they wanna -- democrats want to stay away from talk about inflation. and that gives them a really great outlet. >> yeah, reverend al, what about you? let me ask you both questions. what ways are you looking at, as the ways you think the fine the final race between 2022. and what is the issue? >> i think that i'm looking at ohio, really very interested to see how tim ryan goes, because he is not in either of the mold of what we call the woke crowd. and at the same time, he has been able to deal on the ground with what ohioans are concerned about, which could be the model going into the 24 election. so, i think tim ryan and his race in ohio, i'm particularly looking at. and again, i think the real overall concern of voters is, looking at candidates that really understand where i am, how i'm living. this is the first election, i think, you know, we can look at history, but this is the first election we've had since a pandemic in this country, and since an assault on the capital of this country, and our democracy. so, a lot of what we are looking at, we are not realizing, voters are voting with a different reality than they ever voted before. so, a lot of the metrics are changing. and i want to see who gets this right, because there's no book for them to read or study, or know advise they can get, that can say this is our lincoln. lincoln did not have a pandemic, and lincoln did not have a week insurrection leading the election. a lot of the things are different. >> a lot of things are different. it's gonna be fascinating grace. i want to thank you all. thanks for our incredible roundtable, greatly appreciate your insights. and i hope to see you again soon. >> coming up, a deeper look at the supreme court's monumental decision to overturn roe v. wade. and how that is gonna impact the vote? 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better off when we are around people with different backgrounds and perspectives. the only way we effectively speak truth to power is by truly understanding all sides of an argument. >> with us now, stacey abrams. stacy, thank you so much for being with us. i guess we are on tv every morning. you are on the ground every day. we can talk about the environment and how it is shifting because of this court decision, or because of that crazy statement by other political candidates. i'm curious, what are you seeing on the ground 100 days out? >> what i'm seeing on the ground is a great deal of anxiety and the desire for hope. we live in a state that is in the midst of multiple crises. while some people are doing will. so many georgians are struggling. we have an economic crisis as being exacerbated by the failure of this governor to deploy resources. we have evictions that are skyrocketing. we are number two or three in the nation. we have a housing crisis in georgia. we have an economic issue, because while prices are raising wages are. another stagnant in georgia. we may have low unemployment, but unfortunately these jobs are not paying a good paying wage so families are struggling to get by. we are facing extreme abortion ban. abortion is now illegal in georgia for all intents and purposes. when women know their pregnant, they cannot make a decision. and georgia, we have 82 counties that do not have an ob/gyn. 18 counties that do not have anyone practicing family medicine and nine counties that do not have a doctor. and yet, a response from the governor is to refuse to expand medicaid denying access to health care to have 1 million georgians. we are the ninth highest gun violence state in the nation. gun violence is a number one killer of our children. on a host of metrics, this governor has failed and i'm hearing again and again that people are concerned, because his response is either inaction or making it worse. he has weakened gun laws in georgia. i have been across the state. i've been to every region of the state. without exception, the people i'm talking to want better. they want more. they don't know that they can get it. they've also been convinced that we can't afford it. that's simply not true. >> isn't it ironic. hypocritical, that the very people who call themselves pro life for the very people who want to cut medicaid and the very people who support the proliferation of weapons of war and for 18 year olds with mental health problems, to be able to walk in and buy them on their 18th birthday, are the same people that of course support the death penalty and are the same people who seem unconcerned about any sort of health care reform that would stop the united states of america from having the worst infant mortality rates for mothers in, and again, in the western world. s >> georgia is ground zero for almost every proof point that you've offered. under this governor, in order to win his primary, he weakened gun laws in georgia. and that was after the massacre in march of 2021, they took the lives of eight people in the state of georgia, including six asian women. this is the same governor who is refusing to expand medicaid, but yet, forcing women into pregnancy. he is basically told them, either you get pregnant, or you go to jail. if you get pregnant, you either hold that pregnancy, you are either forced to give birth, or you go to jail. and he has done that despite denying those very same women access to the kind of prenatal care, and the kind of preventative care that can make possibly be a life-changing opportunity. we know, under this governor, in the state of georgia, black women are three times more likely to die. and georgia has the highest maternal mortality rate in the nation. which means that it is lethal to get pregnant in georgia, if you cannot have the health care you need. and he is denying them very health care that could make caring healthy pregnancy to term. and worse, is telling them, if you must carry, you can be investigated and jailed. if you have an atopic pregnancy, you may have to risk your life, until it is do or die, literally. we have a governor who is a hard right extremist, who is a religious extremist, who likes to pretend that he is a moderate, because he's anti trump. or that he is a fiscal conservative. but to your point, he is someone who has proven time and again, he does not care about the people of georgia. he does not care about the future of georgia. >> i want to talk a little bit more about abortion, because it is front and center in georgia, not because of the campaign, but just because of the laws that are being passed here. but it's very interesting. we have elise jordan who did a focus group of georgia voters. we had a focus group on georgia democrats, and a focus group on georgia republicans. the georgia republicans who were trump voters, who are predictably extreme on issues like the election being stolen, would say crazy things about possible conspiracy theories. but when the topic came to abortion, one of the men that supported donald trump, elise asked him about abortion, he said -- >> women get this much of a voice on the topic. men should have this much voice on the topic. >> stacy, it's fascinating. i am sure you've heard from republicans and independents too, have called themselves pro-life, who have been shocked by just how extreme the georgia legislation, and other legislators, especially across the deep south, have taken it. >> i grew up in the deep south. i grew up in a religious family. i shared those beliefs for a very long time. but when i moved into politics and law, when i started really examining my belief system, i realized i don't have the expertise, or the capacity to make that type of medical decision for anyone. and because georgia's ban is so extreme, brian kemp has said he was overjoyed to sign. women are literally putting their lives on the line. they cannot access care because they can't get it, and they often will not know they are pregnant until it is too late to find out, if there is someone who can help them. as of today, in georgia, abortion is illegal. and that is terrifying. it is terrifying for those women who also want to carry a child to term, because they may be denied at the very lifesaving care they need, to one day carry a child to term. this is about a woman's medical care. this is not a political issue. and yes, i've heard from independence. i've heard from republicans. i've heard from older religious black women and latino women, who have all said to me, personally, this is not the government's job. this is not the governor's job. the governor should be protecting us, and expanding opportunity, not taking away our rights. >> when you look in georgia, you look around the country as well. in ohio, a ten year old girl who was raped had to flee that state to get an abortion. a ten year old girl, because the laws of ohio, she was afraid, we're going to have a forced birth of her rapist baby. you look at what the texas republican party is doing. the texas attorney general is doing. they are actually fighting the biden administration, who are trying to protect women, if the mother's lives are at risk. and it seems to me, one extreme move after another extreme move, the mississippi attorney general, a month or so ago, said that yes, 12 year old girls will be forced to have births, if they were victims of rape or incest. this depresses, obviously, a lot of people. when, obviously, extraordinarily concerned, but they have no control over their health care choices, over their own bodies that the federal government, the state government instead, taking control of that. what hope do you have to offer them? >> i would offer them the reality that if i become governor, i will absolutely work to repeal these laws. but more importantly, i will veto any new laws. the current governor, not only signed the most extreme than in georgia's history, he has said he would go further. he would join mississippi and texas. he would eliminate access to abortion for rape and incest. he likes to tout the work that he's done with human trafficking, and yet, he would deny those very same woman the medical care they need. he would tell them, he will tell that ten year old chance to file a police report in order to get access to care. i don't know of a ten year old who has the wherewithal to survive both the trauma of rape, and navigating our criminal justice system. i will protect women. i will protect families. and let's take this a step further. this is also the economy of georgia. who is going to bring jobs to a state where women cannot survive being here? who is going to make the decision to live in a state, and bring multiple jobs to a place where we do not have adequate health care already, and we are going to continue to lose doctors, and health care workers, because they risk losing their licenses, if they do their jobs? in georgia, doctoral or health care workers, can go to prison for ten years, if they are found participating in an abortion. and they have to prove the negative, they have to prove it wasn't their fault. that means they have to hire lawyers. that means it's easier and more profitable to work somewhere else. georgia is putting, not only our economy at risk, and our communities at risk. we are putting our future at risk, with that governor, if he is reelected, he will make it harder to survive living in the state of georgia. >> as stacy is gonna stay with us, we're gonna ask you about other issues that are gonna be driving the vote in georgia this november. we are back in a minute. ack in a minute. 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>> parents should absolutely have the power to be deeply involved and deeply invested in their children's education. i don't have kids of my own, but i have a burrow teenager. my parents and niece live with me. i spent the last year deeply embedded in her education. i understand the concerns that parents are racing, but i also understand that we cannot have individualized plans for learning for every single student when we have overcrowded classrooms and underpaid teachers or simply struggling to get by. georgia has a teachers shortage and we are hemorrhaging teachers. in part, because the starting jet salary in georgia is less than the starting salary in mississippi. it's $39,000 a year. i have planned to read that starting salary to $50, 000, yet the governor is saying we cannot afford it. he can afford to give billionaires and millionaires 10,000 dollar paid tax cuts, but he can't afford to give teachers an 11,000 dollar pay raise. that is bad math, but it's also bad for education. would parents want and with any good person once is for children to have good education, to feel safe in the classroom, and to know that they're being taught the truth. unfortunately, this governor has banned children, and books, and teachers telling them the truth. he is doing everything in his power to undercut a strong public education. recently, yes, the state legislature finally filled this promise and funded education, that's because democrats sent money home. if his own volition, brian kemp -- kemp cut -- that stuck in a leadership we will see if he's reelected. to my mind, we need a governor who wants to be the public education governor, which is what i've said and we have been endorsed by the george association of educators. >> democratic nominee for georgia governor, stacey abrams. thank you so much for being with us. i want to thank you for watching this morning joe special. stay with msnbc and nbc news for continued coverage of the key racist watch. and what's at stake 100 days from now. at stake 100 days from now from now [whistling] with technology that can scale across all your clouds... it's easier to do more innovative things. 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