but instead of loeg losing it by 60 points, he would lose it by 30 points, and you added that up and he owned the industrial midwest. what has happened to the democratic party's lock on the industrial midwest? >> it's a great question, joe. i think what you've seen and you saw this with acceleration starting in the 2014 election, and the advent of donald trump in 2015 and 2016, is he was really able to capture those noncollege, particularly noncollege white voters, that democrats and particularly president obama had done well with in many of those upper midwestern states, and you know, we see this even now in the national polling, that the democratic party is now more aligned with voters that are college educated, and the republicans with noncollege educated voters, and i think you've seen, you can throw in ohio, a state that president obama won twice, that now feels