united states, he may go a little more lightly because he does understand the massive amount of arms but he's alone the ukrainian people feel alone. they feel betrayed by nato they wanted membership for a very long time you know, they see turkey in there, where they're being told they don't have enough democratic reforms they see, what, northern montenegro in there, saying they don't have strong enough defense. so, yeah, there is resentment, and they play off that he plays off of that to inspire the country. >> he does i mean, we have to remember, as recently as last october, nato reminded in its statement that ukraine was in the waiting room to join nato so you can understand why they think, well, we might not be in nato, but we should kind of be treated like we're almost in nato. >> right. >> there is no sign that we're going to intervene, i think wisely i suspect the curveball he is going to throw is over germany's