but at the same time he was also saying he wants nato to return to its borders prior to 20 years before. that means that he wants poland out of nato, that he wants hungary out of nato, that he wants the baltic states out of nato. that's why those countries are now so extremely concerned and supportive of ukraine's effort to fight back against that. the worst case scenario, he devastates the line of ukraine and i kills everyone in here and gets close to eastern border of poland. we have to understand that he will go in there. he is crazy enough to do that. so what we're asking to do now is just help us fight him on our territory. we do already have a war here. we are just asking to avoid many casualties that can proceed further because he will not stop. there is nothing to stop him. he is completely out of his mind. he has nothing left that is human in him and he will go further if he is not stopped here. >> ukrainian member of