he reduces kyiv to, you know, aleppo, my god. he will then be a hunted man. >> yeah, what's i think most remarkable about this is that it is coming from the ground up in europe. you would appreciate this in particular, joe. >> yes. >> but soccer games. >> yes. >> you are seeing the ukrainian flag. >> the protests. >> you are seeing people singing the ukrainian anthem. they're treating the ukrainian players in the various clubs as heroes. uefa and fifa follow by kicking russia out of the world cup. it is coming from the crowds. it is across europe. it is in germany, it is in spain, it is in england. it is quite remarkable grassroots feeling that people have. i think it is being led from below. i think it is appropriately a democratically led response. that old quote from lenin for