americans on both sides of the political spectrum are right to be asking the question, why should putin's actions matter to the united states, why should we care? why can't we just be indifferent to ukraine? what's our rooting interest against putin? some are asking this question in good faith. others are asking it cynically to try to land cheap, political points. those advocating for indifference want us to believe no vital american interests are at stake in this conflict. those voices are wrong. indifference is not an option here. whether you are an optimistic idealist or a realist, americans shouldn't be indifferent. >> see, he's right. that proves bobbie bowden right as well. if you saw that coffee cup behind him, bowden was right.