republicans when they're still ultimately feeding this lie. >> well, definitely when you are looking at primaries in red districts where the incentive structure is still the same, you are not going to see some break. i always say republicans aren't afraid of trump. they're afraid of their own voters. >> exactly. yeah, there's a reason, willie. i mean we had the guy who was in the texas primary a couple of months ago. i forget his name because he didn't win, and he would have been the i deal republican candidate five, six, seven years ago. a marine. said all of the right things on deficits, said all of the right things on foreign policy. he just said, "we need to move past donald trump." his voters weren't ready to move past donald trump. >> yeah, they're not. we've heard that, even though lindsey graham recently in the last couple of days criticized donald trump saying he would offer pardons. he said on tv, i couldn't even support mitch mcconnell as