custody of the taliban- linked haqqani network. threatening americans and innocent civilians is an act of particularly cruelty. he said, the taliban must immediately release mark before it can expect aspirations for its legitimacy. this is not negotiable. joining us staff writer for "the atlantic" george packer. he writes that america's chaotic withdrawal from afghanistan added moral energy to military failure. george, good morning. it is good to see you. >> good morning. >> as i said you wrote an excellent short book of 20,000 boards, "the betrayal." but an important document for history. i want to talk about how we got here but let's talk about the current state of affairs. you and i were discussing veterans i know, journalists we both know are having to privately rally contacts, planes, money, afghan