disciplined than donald trump. what's his end game here? is he riding this out to see if donald trump decides to run in 2024 or what's the upside for him to push back a little bit in a way that frankly not another republican publicly will do? >> well, desantis for some time though got attention at this time. he's been lamenting having done it from at least april. sort of the timing that made it the perfect storm. i think you answer your own question, desantis is being strategic about it or tactical, i think the answer is yes. one republican had described to me, this is sort of the back drafting primary. you got all of these trum m's candidates that are back drafting behind it and it will come a little out behind and you kind of distinguish themselves out of circumstances or on