nullification. >> willie, it is a great frustration for people running campaigns on the democratic side. you talk about jim crow 2.0 for voting laws that basically takes us back to 2018. pre-pandemic voting laws in a lot of cases. you're not focusing on the real threat to american democracy, which is, republican state legislatures saying, we don't like how the votes were counted in the fairest, cleanest election in american history. we're going to decide how those votes are counted moving forward. time and again, we've asked people on this show. it's great. we understand, they're going back to pre-pandemic voting procedures. you wantdrop-bodrop-boxes. awesome. dig it. great. what about this part where they decide who counts the votes and how they count the votes after the votes have been cast. there's been this bizarre lack