professionally. it goes against it personally, and yet, you still go. god bless you. >> a little different. >> i know you have a question for jonathan. go ahead. >> i do, and joe, you are my friend, absolutely. let me ask you this question, jonathan. i read your article, and i found it fascinating for a couple of reasons. i'm going to ask two quick questions. one, what would it mean to be conservative around race issues in the context of the mid 20th century effort to desegregate the american society. the second question is obviously we have to make a distinction between conservative and fascism. you've conceded the claim that american conservatism laid the foundation for the fascism turn we're seeing. so talk a bit about the issue of race and conservatism and the way in which race is being