republicans and there were business people that tried since the early 1970s to get government off of their backs. but it is so funny that most of these people, the chamber, these pro business lobbying groups, they weren't such libertarians when, you know, people like me would try to vote down the sugar subsidy, or i remember just catching absolute hell when i tried to end loyalty relief, so big oil wouldn't get federal subsidies for doing what they do anyway. and drill. and you can -- they can go down the list. they always -- they would always grade you well if you voted against welfare benefits for poor single moms, but you would always get punished by the same supposedly libertarian pro business community if you were against -- if you voted against