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and i have been very cautious, very conservative during the pandemic as far as bubble wrapping our families, bubble wrapping ourselves to use an expression katty and i were talking act before, but we have flown an awful lot. we've had confident that -- in the ability of the airlines and the mask mandates to allow us to fly without getting covid, and it's worked for us. and for our families. i'm curious, as we get to the end of 2021, and we're moving through omicron, i know you travel a lot. you study this a lot. have -- what have you found about the airlines and the general safety of flying? is it -- are we confident at the end of 2021 to say that when you get on a plane, if you follow the instructions, you're really going to be safe from covid? >> reporter: indeed. in fact, you know, you got to go

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