>> public safety and public accountability are not mutually exclusive. we have to have measurable results and make sure what we are doing is just and not over policing in communities who are under served of police. >> so during the course of the last year of the pandemic, shootings increase twofold in new york city but gun arrests are only 14%. how are you going to narrow that down. how are you going to make sure gun arrests are up with the number of shootings. that's way up. >> we clearly had a controversial program in the city stop and frisk. we can't go back to those days and at the same time there is in interesting tension between making sure that cops don't over shoot the runway and turn into bad cops but also able to keep the streets safe.