drag these guys over the finish line. >> he's writing, "hey jude," black bird" and others. you watch this and you could tell right away, this is a band that does not have a manager. >> and they say -- i think one of -- i think also -- and this is also what surprises me, too, because, again, even if they're my heroes, john heilemann, you always hear the bad things about them. john lennon's last week in '74. he acted horribly. over 50 years somebody is going to act out. i was taken by -- actually i know this is going to sound strange, how nice they were, how decent they were in that studio, especially to each other because we've read that they hated each other. but they would talk about mr. epstein, mr. epstein. and paul would say, i don't want to do this. john, you're the leader. i don't want to do this. i don't want to have to drach