the budget. this matters especially about whether their budget tricks or playing it straightforward because manchin is going to want this to be about revenue neutral as possible. and of the effect of inflation and more debt piling on top of $29 trillion of debt. >> sure, first of all, you have to acknowledge, it's a historic piece of legislation and it has an extraordinary range and new programs and important programs from climate change to pre-k to all sorts of things we need for this country. i am all for the idea of leaning in on those issues. the question is how do you lean on them and where is it physically responsible?