pence is chief council in collided in eastman's remark in an opinion article of trump's outside team that he wrote later in january but chose not to publish. nbc news had not seen a draft, article or e-mails. he tries to help donald trump overthrow an election where 150 million plus people voted and he says he didn't mean to do it and he was not blaming mike pence. who does that sound like? >> we got the e-mail. this is very clear that this is exactly what he's doing. he's blaming mike pence for not committing sedition against the