discussion we had this morning was on the data about infections going down. but obviously this latest breaking news shows how covid is still very much a part of the fabric of american life right now. >> right. and there are breakthrough cases. and certainly people with compromised immune systems, older americans as well, are still facing some complications and tragically, in the case of colin powell, and some others, sometimes die even after being vaccinated. colin powell, going back to his career, he was, again, one of the most respected voices in foreign policy through the years. obviously, mika, i know your father had the greatest respect for general powell, and as you said, first black secretary of state. he -- again, his reputation was burnished in the first iraq war,